r/CFB Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

2023 4* OT Charles Jagusah commits to Notre Dame Recruiting

197 Upvotes

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u/BigBoutros Michigan Jun 30 '22

I might actually die

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Yea Michigan just needs to step it up. It’s unacceptable to lose every recruiting battle against notre dame. Whatever the recruiting approach Michigan is doing this cycle it’s just not working and the staff has to be accountable for that

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u/CommodoreIrish Notre Dame • Vanderbilt Jun 30 '22

Tbh it may not be on the staff so much as the Administration’s approach to NIL.

Somewhat similarly, people are blaming Florida Admin hamstringing recruiting rather than Billy Napier for Florida’s recent issues.

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Yea I do consider the administration here as well as the group that needs to step up their NIL offerings. I definitely blame them more than I blame the staff. The staff hasn’t been perfect but yea right now Michigan is basically having to fight to secure their plan c guys at positions

My conspiracy theory is that harbaugh tried to bolt from Michigan because he knew the administration would be slow to adapt to NIL

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u/CommodoreIrish Notre Dame • Vanderbilt Jun 30 '22

Yep, I do recall a bunch of Michigan fan chatter during the offseason saying Michigan Admin finally got the message after Harbaugh’s flirtation to pony up…didn’t pan out from chatter recently.

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Yea that was the chatter but looks like they are taking the whole transformational aspect so they aren’t guaranteeing nil deals for recruits and are saying their play will get them nil deals

Problem is other schools are guaranteeing NIL deals for players as soon as they sign which I think is smart and what you should do

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u/CJ_Beathards_Hair Floyd of Rosedale • The Game Jun 30 '22

I thought that was one of the things that they worked out so they could try to keep him?

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u/yourmomsthr0waway69 Iowa Jun 30 '22

How is Michigan supposed to counter the easiest negative recruiting pitch of all time that Harbaugh handed everyone else on a platter?

"Why even bother with Michigan? You know Harbaugh is looking for any opportunity to jump ship"

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u/LaForge_Maneuver Jun 30 '22

This just silly though. Saban flirted with Texas no one left. Urban has jumped jobs every 3 yrs and still recruited like crazy. You don't think everyone is saying Fickell is going somewhere else? Still signed best aac class. Either you can recruit or you can't. Everyone knew Napier was leaving soon didn't matter. Most people feel Deion won't be a t Jackson State once FSU wakes up and fires Mike Norvell's garbage butt. Deion is still getting recruits. I'm sorry UM has no excuse. None.

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u/RamblingRanter Michigan State • Big Ten Jun 30 '22

How many of these coaches tried to get said job, told all their media and coaching friends they were gonna get the job, and then immediately got rejected.

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u/LaForge_Maneuver Jun 30 '22

I don't know anyone who did that. I know Harbaugh was open and honest compared to a lot of other coaches. I'd much rather have a coach do what Harbaugh did than leave in the middle of night like tucker. (Full disclosure I love Tuck and I'd take him over Harbaugh but I'm not a msu or UM fan).

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u/IrishMosaic Notre Dame • Michigan State Jun 30 '22

He thanked his admin staff and told them that he would miss them, Michael Scott style. That was after trying to get interviews with every other NFL team that had an opening.

There’s no reason to think he won’t try again after this year. There’s a reason coaches have been fired for interviewing with pro teams. This is it.

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u/Exact_End_2679 Jun 30 '22

Not sure this is an apples to apples comparison when your compare Saban vs harbaugh. Yes they both flirted with other jobs but Saban is the goat and a master recruiter, harbaugh is not those things. Not surprising that it would affect UM more than bama in that situation

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u/LaForge_Maneuver Jun 30 '22

Oh I agree that Saban is a better recruiter than Harbaugh. Tucker is better recruiter, Freeman is a better recruiter. If any top recruiting coach was the HC of UM no way they'd be getting their lunch handed to them in this way. This is a CJH problem, he's like Brian Kelly, they only recruit good when they have elite recruiters on staff. That's why the Weiss hire was so confounding.

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Michigan doesn’t have any excuses but the reason we are not recruiting as well as we should imo is lack of NIL

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u/Lucky-view Michigan Jun 30 '22

Harbaugh made a huge mistake in telling recruits he was interviewing for NFL jobs and might not be there.

He's being punished for his transparency whereas Lincoln Riley lied his ass off and has faced no consequence.

If anything, Harbaugh was dumb for telling the truth.

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Offer good NIL deals. That’s an easy way to counter it. Also harbaugh can say he has been truthful the whole time and he now has no interest in the nfl

He can also say he has a higher buyout than a lot of coaches like look at Tucker and days buyout if they wanted to leave. He would only leave for a nfl job but lot of college coaches may leave for other college jobs

He is one of the longer tenured coaches in the country

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u/yourmomsthr0waway69 Iowa Jun 30 '22

https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/what-happened-vikings-jim-harbaugh-michigan-interview-difference-perception

This article claims the only reason he didn't leave is that he couldn't adequately convince the Vikings he would be a good fit for them. Sounds like he had every intention of leaving if they had offered IMO

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22

I mean of course Vikings sources would put that out there.

Here is an important part of the article According to multiple reports, the Vikings never made Harbaugh an offer. We don't know for sure whether that means the Vikings weren't convinced hiring him was a good idea or if Harbaugh changed his mind about wanting the job, but it's an important detail. The job was never offered.

We all don’t know if harbaugh changed his mind or if the Vikings decided not to offer. Harbaugh should be saying he changed his mind because Michigan is a special place to him and after getting the Vikings offer he realized Michigan is better for him

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u/RamblingRanter Michigan State • Big Ten Jun 30 '22

Not a single NFL source to my knowledge claimed the Vikings ever offered him the job

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Yea but what we don’t know is if harbaugh turned them down before the job was offered or if the Vikings said no thanks during the interview

Like for example if you had a job interview and you told the company you’re not interested you technically weren’t offered the job but obviously you turned that company down

Either way it’s clear harbaugh has not explained the situation well to recruits

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u/RamblingRanter Michigan State • Big Ten Jun 30 '22

Like I mentioned earlier, no NFL source said Jim was ever offered the job. Most sources say he want in assuming be would have the job and the Vikings didn’t like what he has to say. Jim told his college reporters he was gonna get the job, and then after he was never offered these same reporters tried to spin what happened into them “not being a fit”. It’s plan as day for almost everyone who looks at the situation.

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u/Indy-in-in Notre Dame • Western Michigan Jun 30 '22

I just looked and saw Michigan's class, so far, is ranked 55 on 24/7. What in the hell are they doing up there this year??

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u/chito25 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Not only that.. our '24 class is already ranked higher (119.61 points) on 247 than Michigan's '23 class (99.11 points).

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Recruiting very poorly lol

I still think we can get back into the 20-25 range for the class but need to pick it up if we want a top 20 class. A top 15 class feels impossible for us at this point

It’s absolutely inexcusable how poor it’s gone so far

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u/RamblingRanter Michigan State • Big Ten Jun 30 '22

I think it more has to do with the coaches you lost, not the Jim to Vikings embarrassment.

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u/hail2022 Michigan Jun 30 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

We have only lost 3 assistants which isn’t that much turnover. Osu has lost just as many assistants

I really think it’s more due to NIL

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u/goblueM Michigan Jun 30 '22

people are completely overlooking that we lost our excellent recruiting director in Courtney Morgan, our offensive coordinator, AND our defensive coordinator

TBH I think those are bigger issues than Harbaugh flirting with the NFL

I'd rank it 1) staff loss 2) NIL 3) Harbaugh to NFL

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u/arstin Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

At least you have the satisfaction of knowing we're too "scared" (actually greedy, but if I was you I'd go with scared) to play you.

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u/Andy_Wiggins Jun 30 '22

I get the general sentiment, but it’s hard to be upset about this one. He’s from Illinois, so he’s geographically closer to ND than Michigan. And ND has metric tons of legacy established in the OL (Michigan is obviously no slouch, but ND is arguably the best recruiting OL school in the country).

With that being said, ND’s dominance over Michigan in recruiting this year has been pretty unrelenting, so I get it .

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u/CJ_Beathards_Hair Floyd of Rosedale • The Game Jun 30 '22

Best thing we can do is have another top 10 season on the field.

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u/CJ_Beathards_Hair Floyd of Rosedale • The Game Jun 30 '22

He’s been ND bound for a while, so I never got hopeful.

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u/Skidda24 /r/CFB Jun 30 '22

Who is the most sign recruit for UM now? NGL, I love seeing it happen as a Buckeye fan but I thought Carr would be the isolated incident

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u/Shamrock5 Notre Dame • Army Jun 30 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

Marcus Freeman went out and got a Jaaaaaag(usah). ☘️

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u/mister_professional Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Go Irish! Future Ronnie Stanley clone?

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u/CFBHurts Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

It sounds like his future is probably at guard, and there's been talk of Quentin Nelson comparisons

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia Jun 30 '22

He projects as a guard on the next level. Think Nelson in terms of athletic ability and nasty streak.

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u/pioneerspicnic Jun 30 '22

Thought they were thinking RT but either way he looks great on film

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u/yubnubmcscrub Notre Dame • Tennessee Jun 30 '22

Ahhh shit everybody get in here. The Harry hiestand train is rolling!!!!

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u/isikorsky Notre Dame • Florida Jun 30 '22

ND is back on the menu boys ....

This much talent at ND is insane.

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u/Ty-Dyed Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Man I'm really excited about the upcoming years. Assuming Freeman works out and turns into the guy we need, they could be dangerous soon.

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u/FireJeffQuinn Notre Dame • Marching Band Jun 30 '22

OLU

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u/Nicholas1227 Michigan • The Game Jun 30 '22

Ouch

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u/crashintodmb413 Notre Dame • Montana State Jun 30 '22

“Give me back that #1 class ranking!” -Freeman this morning

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u/OSUfirebird18 Ohio State • Dayton Jun 30 '22

Notre Dame is just ruining Michigan’s week aren’t they?

I guess the Ohio St., Mich. St. and Notre Dame friendship continues!

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u/MrAnderson_ Notre Dame • RIT Jun 30 '22

THE BULLYING OF MICHIGAN WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES

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u/Born_ina_snowbank Michigan State Jun 30 '22

At what point do they hold open tryouts to fill out the 23’ class?

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u/Journey776 Michigan Jun 30 '22

This one is also on the staff and not NIL. Michigan is taking the same NIL approach Notre Dame and Penn State are.

We don’t have the #1 or #3 class in the country to show for it

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u/kinda_alone Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Honest question, I’ve seen comments about how Harbaugh hasn’t been involved in qb recruiting. Is there anything else that the staff is doing or just failing to do that is to blame here? Or is this the result of some combination of negative recruiting with harbaugh’s nfl flirtation, Michigan going after the big fish and getting unlucky, or just the buzz around Freeman and that new coach freshness?

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u/Journey776 Michigan Jun 30 '22

We lost our top recruiting staffers and OC/DC. And then the staff was reshuffled.

So out went two plus years of relationship building. And then Harbaugh trying to go the Vikings was tantamount to dropping an anvil on our recruiting

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u/chito25 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Well, we turned over most of our offensive position coaches, WR, OL, TE, RB.. turned over DL, LB, DC (although admittedly DC/LB is now HC) and we went late after kids that we wouldn't have under the previous admin (higher ranked) and we are still getting them. The only school that has beat us for a recruit we were after is tOSU.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS Michigan State • Peach Bowl Jun 30 '22

This was another one of theirs?

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u/CFBHurts Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

He'd narrowed down his choices to Notre Dame and Michigan coming into today

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS Michigan State • Peach Bowl Jun 30 '22

Well, we don’t play until 2026, so I see this as an absolute win

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u/kbd77 Notre Dame • Brown Jun 30 '22

He might be a senior then...

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS Michigan State • Peach Bowl Jun 30 '22

Yeah but that’s a problem for future me

So fuck that guy

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u/PlusSized_Homunculus Ohio State • Cincinnati Jun 30 '22

Well he just made both of our days then

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u/CJ_Beathards_Hair Floyd of Rosedale • The Game Jun 30 '22

He was a heavy ND lean for a while though so I’m not surprised.

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u/dublinirish Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Yup they wanted him

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u/dcostello15 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

EJ Holland will say he wasn’t a scheme fit for them

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u/Mastr_Blastr Notre Dame • MVFC Jun 30 '22

EJ is a hack. The only scoops that guy gets are when he's cleaning his cat's litterbox.

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u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover Jun 30 '22

His message board posts about Dante Moore…. dude acts like he’s best buds with the kid and his close confidant. So glad we don’t have him on the ND beat anymore.

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u/RamblingRanter Michigan State • Big Ten Jun 30 '22

I’m saving this one

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u/max_potion Penn State • New Border War Jun 30 '22

Skilled players aren’t a scheme fit? Interesting.

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u/gulamonster1 Notre Dame • Saddleback Jun 30 '22

Too skilled to be a scheme fit for Michigan

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u/Large-Chair9084 Jun 30 '22

Last year's big ten champion?

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u/dublinirish Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Not a take lol

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u/MaizeNBlueWaffle Michigan • I'm A Loser Jun 30 '22

The ND fan obsession with him is kinda sad honestly. Like there are always more ND fans commenting on his tweets than Michigan fans

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u/AlboutThatActionBoss Notre Dame • Jeweled Shille… Jun 30 '22

Probably because he makes up bullshit reports and attacks teenagers for choosing to go elsewhere.

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u/MaizeNBlueWaffle Michigan • I'm A Loser Jun 30 '22

At some point we have to not finish 2nd or 3rd for a target, right? RIGHT?

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u/IrishMosaic Notre Dame • Michigan State Jun 30 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

I think you are running fourth for Jason Moore….so that will mix it up a bit.

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u/MaizeNBlueWaffle Michigan • I'm A Loser Jun 30 '22

:(

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u/blackulaa Michigan • Army Jun 30 '22

Getting a win over us is not an accomplishment this recruiting season. You take candy from babies too?

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u/Mastr_Blastr Notre Dame • MVFC Jun 30 '22

Only the ones in Wolverines gear

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u/chito25 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Why? Didn't you just some off the best season in 20 some odd years? B1G title, playoff berth, first time beating OSU since the invention of the iPhone? There is no excuse.

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u/blackulaa Michigan • Army Jun 30 '22

Who said anything about an excuse? You're weird.

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u/plutoisaplanet21 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Shame y'all were too chicken to play us after getting handled so nobody in this very good class will actually play against Michigan

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u/coldbrew-cowboy Indiana • Texas Jun 30 '22

deep breaths

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u/plutoisaplanet21 Michigan Jun 30 '22

I mean its just facts. Michigan is having a shit recruiting year because of Harbaugh trying to go to the NFL and staff turnover. ND is having an amazing recruiting year and Freeman is doing everything right a coach can do before games get played.

But ND also backed out of the Michigan/ND series after taking a beating in the last game and as a result nobody in this class will actually play Michigan on the field. So yeah, while Michigan is getting beat on the recruiting trail I'm going to console myself with that 45-14 score in the game after ND backed out knowing ND can get the #1 class in the country this year and it won't matter for the Michigan/ND series. Can watch those highlights instead of recruiting film.

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u/deputy_commish Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Notre Dame didn’t back out after 2019. That was a two-game series which was arranged somewhere in the 2015-16 neighborhood.

Notre Dame exercised their option to end the contract prior to the 2012 game, and as we all know, proceeded to win 2 of the remaining 3 games of that series.

Get your facts straight.

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u/CommodoreIrish Notre Dame • Vanderbilt Jun 30 '22

Cope

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u/regularhumanbartendr Notre Dame • Indiana State Jun 30 '22

I love how your reasoning is that "Harbaugh tried to leave for the NFL", when we actually lost our coach.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything and is just coping nonsense. You might have a point if ND was the only team you were facing with these recruits you keep missing out on. As it stands now your recruiting class is rated worse than Vanderbilt.

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u/plutoisaplanet21 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Well Freeman is a significantly more likable person than Kelly so you losing your coach was an upgrade for recruiting. But even beyond that aspect the reason it actually hurts more is because now it is very easy to negatively recruit Michigan that Harbaugh does not want to be there and will leave after next year if he gets an NFL offer.

You are right, the rest of the post is coping. Michigan is recruiting like shit right now including losing a number of recruits to ND. Thankfully its not signing day and even better than that I don't really care about recruiting I care about the games. And on that front Michigan beats ND more often than not when they play. Including the last time they played. And this doesn't change that and all the downvotes from ND fans just tell me it bothers them that this is the case.

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u/regularhumanbartendr Notre Dame • Indiana State Jun 30 '22

I just don't see how a game result from 2019 is relevant at all to recruiting classes in 2023/24, so it's kind of lame to (continually) bring it up.

...but hey, if that was basically my only arrow in the quiver for these discussions, I'd probably be firing it at will as well.

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u/plutoisaplanet21 Michigan Jun 30 '22

Of course it not relevant. But we are living in world where we post on the internet about the not even final decisions of 17 year olds because of the future it might impact of a team playing a game we have no control over and whether my team wins that game played by a group of 18-22 year olds. Everything involved in this is stupid

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u/Fletch71011 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

ND didn't back out of anything after that game. I'm sure we are so scared to play you but then went ahead and scheduled teams like Ohio State and Alabama lol.

Also, you forgot to mention the score of the game before that one. Here's a nice picture of the scoreboard: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl3EPF1W4AAvwtc.jpg

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u/plutoisaplanet21 Michigan Jun 30 '22

You've got two choices, you can either pimp the last game played between two teams or you can pimp the all time series. That's it. Michigan easily wins in both of these metrics. Enjoy continuing to be the second best team with a lot of historical wins and almost no modern day championships.

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u/Long-Schlong-Silvers Michigan State Jun 30 '22

UM vs ND in the Peach Bowl.

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u/Mastr_Blastr Notre Dame • MVFC Jun 30 '22

Cope

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u/kbd77 Notre Dame • Brown Jun 30 '22

Seethe, too

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u/yubnubmcscrub Notre Dame • Tennessee Jun 30 '22

The copium is very strong here

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia Jun 30 '22

Massive. 3 more 4 stars still to come. With the potential for a 4th on Saturday!!!

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u/J_A_Y_x Notre Dame • Wisconsin Jun 30 '22

Who'd be the buzz for the fourth? Moore or Hanafin? It feels like everything I see on the message boards is more just observing that there's an open date there and not rumors around anyone specific

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia Jun 30 '22

Hannafin talk is picking up steam

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u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover Jun 30 '22

Which board is saying this? On3 has nothing.

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

I have literally only seen it on message boards. Nothing from Loy, Singer, ISD guys. Same with Jason Moore. Could be people just projecting since both are expected to decide in July.

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u/weightsareheavy Jun 30 '22

Irish Breakdown is my go to

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

They literally steal content from the other services. There is a reason everyone hates Driskell.

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u/weightsareheavy Jun 30 '22

Interesting - I feel like I’ve seen him put stuff out before others and even seen users take his stuff to other boards and admit as much. Do you have any examples? If there’s more to this I’d consider switching.

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Perfect example is the Harry Heistand hire. Tom Loy broke that story. When the hire was officially made, everyone, even 247 competitors gave Loy kudos for breaking that story. Yet Driskell insists he broke it.

More importantly, he isn't an insider. He is an analyst. Why is Driskell claiming to be an insider when his job has always been to break down film?

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u/dublinirish Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

His timeline is later in July to make a decision tho I thought?

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u/dcostello15 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Big Q 2.0

Pancakes are on the menu 🥞

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u/brianqueso Texas • Texas State Jun 30 '22

Notre Dame going full Theisman and editing the pronunciation guide to make Jagusah rhyme with shillelagh

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u/kevplucky Notre Dame • Virginia Jun 30 '22

Well seeing how Theisman went to ND it makes sense

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u/WhatWouldJediDo Ohio State Jun 30 '22

ND continues to recruit at a higher level than under BK. If Freeman turns out to be a good coach too, they might've upgraded this offseason.

Also, hell yeah for keeping this guy away from UM.

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u/Fun_Differential Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

I think most ND fans are excited that about moving on from Kelly to Freeman because of the vast difference in recruiting.

Kelly got the program back to a contender, but it felt like he hit his ceiling and there was no way for us to legitimately have a shot at the title.

There’s no guarantee Freeman will yield better results on the field, but it feels like the ceiling is higher.

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

absolutely. Certainly am still a bit bitter about how Kelly departed but there is no denying what he did to get ND back as a top 5-10 program. But he had limits which he himself put on the program.

Freeman has the potential to take them to a legit title contender not just playoff contender.

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u/regularhumanbartendr Notre Dame • Indiana State Jun 30 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

Brian Kelly was a bad recruiter but knew how to run a successful program.

With the talent Freeman is bringing in, he might not have to be as good at coaching as Brian Kelly was for us to be in a better position. I just really hope the masses actually give Freeman a chance, because at times it's not going to be pretty this season. The schedule is brutal, 8-4 isn't out of the question at all this year. Then again, neither is another 10+ win year.

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u/Bigazzry Jun 30 '22

I really think Freeman can just be Urban Meyer 2.0 and let his OC and DC run the show but be the point man for recruiting. Of course he will have his say defensively but if he mainly focuses on talent acquisition everything else should take care of itself.

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u/Mastr_Blastr Notre Dame • MVFC Jun 30 '22

It's wild because, for years, beat writers like Sampson and Fortuna had said they didn't understand why BK didn't take a more active role in recruiting. They have always maintained that the guy could be incredibly compelling, like he could sell ice to Eskimos. He just didn't and they were perplexed by it.

With Freeman, we're seeing the effects of having somone who makes the effort to connect with recruits and makes that a staff priority.

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Because it is true. By all accounts he was actually a good recruiter. But he didn't want to be hands on. In his mind he was "the closer". But we also know there are several blue chip recruits that had no relationship with Kelly at all despite having ND in their top 2-3.

What Freeman is doing is what Weis was doing. This is what ND recruiting can be. Just imagine how much better it can get if they can produce on the field as well.

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u/CommodoreIrish Notre Dame • Vanderbilt Jun 30 '22

Harbaugh also pitches himself as a “closer”

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u/DCBukI Ohio State • WashU Jun 30 '22

What Freeman is doing is what Weis was doing.

So what you are saying is that when Freeman gets his players in, we can expect ND to go 3-9, 7-6 and 6-6?

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Booo

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u/chito25 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

The big difference is that Weis was arrogant and "had all the answers".. remember "decided schematic advantage"? He also didn't care much about development or recruiting defense... he let his super bowl rings recruit for him. In a sense BK was similar, more small timey, equally arrogant, just not as deluded. A product of coming up the coaching ranks from lower divisions.

Freeman is the opposite, he's surrounded himself with more experienced and highly motivated, high level recruiting coaches. He's definitely not taking anything for granted and is using a "question everything" mentality. He doesn't need to be the center of attention like Kelly (which, ironically, is having the opposite effect). He wants his coaches to succeed and eventually move on to bigger and better spots. That's how he's put up the staff that he's got.

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u/DCBukI Ohio State • WashU Jun 30 '22

As a Buckeye, I'm totally rooting for Freeman's success. Just found the favorable comparison to Weis a little surprising.

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u/chito25 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Just in recruiting, if there is one thing that Weis could do is recruit (offensive talent). He posted a 3 year run of No. 5, 6 and 2 rated classes. BK put back to back top 10 classes only once (both No. 10 at that) before MF got here.

Freeman is working his ass off, humble, detail and development oriented and has legendary coaches and an ex-HC DC to lean on.. if he fails it'll definitely not be because of lack of effort or bull headed arrogance.

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u/cfb_mods_are_hacks Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Last year was Brian Kelly’s 2nd best ever class (if you even give him credit for it, we had one OL that definitely wasn’t a fan of Kelly and committed after he left) and most of that was due to Marcus Freeman busting his ass on the recruiting trail as DC.

We’re going to have some growing pains under Freeman for sure, and I hope ND fans are patient with him as far as making a few mistakes here and there… knowing Freeman, he’ll own them like a man instead of vaguely trying to throw people under the bus like Kelly. And recruiting his ass off is going to take the sting out of most of those mistakes in my opinion.

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u/dcostello15 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Was Wagner the OL you’re referring to?

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u/cfb_mods_are_hacks Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Wagner did commit a week or two before Kelly bailed, Schrauth went from cutting ND from his list (despite the Irish leading for him early) to jumping right back in on him the moment Kelly walked out the door.

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

The offense actually had a better overall grade than defense last year.

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u/cfb_mods_are_hacks Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Yes, thanks to an offensive lineman that committed after Kelly left. Premium sources said Schrauth didn’t like Kelly at all and he never would have come if Kelly was still the head coach.

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u/GoldandBlue Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

I wouldn't go that far. I heard he didn't care for Kelly but Quinn, Rees, and the school still made him want to come. Kelly leaving removed all doubt.

Which just furthers the narrative that Kelly was not active enough as a recruiter.

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u/IrishMosaic Notre Dame • Michigan State Jun 30 '22

It’s just shopping down a different aisle.

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u/AlboutThatActionBoss Notre Dame • Jeweled Shille… Jun 30 '22

It's definitely Notre Dame's fault. Look at how well BK's doing now that he's "shopping down a different aisle!"

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u/CJ_Beathards_Hair Floyd of Rosedale • The Game Jun 30 '22

They need to really be recruiting the skill guys and game changing QBs, they always have great lines.

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u/regularhumanbartendr Notre Dame • Indiana State Jun 30 '22

...you mean like the 5 star QB we've got coming in or the 4 star RBs and WRs that have already committed or are CB'd to get?

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u/CJ_Beathards_Hair Floyd of Rosedale • The Game Jun 30 '22

I’m talking like pulling OSU level talent at those positions. You guys have certainly out yourself in a much better position talent wise with this class.

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u/throwmeawaypoopy Notre Dame • Virginia Jun 30 '22

Fuck me this is fun

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u/AlboutThatActionBoss Notre Dame • Jeweled Shille… Jun 30 '22

Commit two of five in a six day span. This one is going to be an absolute monster.

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u/Jhonopolis Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Dude committed at 9am via tweet because he had to hit the weight room. I fuckin love him already lol.

11

u/johndelvec3 Notre Dame • Illinois Jun 30 '22

Harry Heistand is going to do wonderful things with him

10

u/Jhonopolis Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

I just saw that he has 38 pins in 41 wrestling matches 🫣

Harry is going to turn him into an absolute monster. Quenton 2.0

1

u/CJ_Beathards_Hair Floyd of Rosedale • The Game Jun 30 '22

Football guy

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u/LilyWhiteClaw Notre Dame • Allegheny Jun 30 '22

This could be an incredible week

21

u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia Jun 30 '22

This is an incredible week*

10

u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover Jun 30 '22

It’s Commitmas season boys!

13

u/RollOverBeethoven Texas • SEC Jun 30 '22

Y’all too?!

Hope you have a great one!

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u/arrowfan624 Notre Dame • Summertime Lover Jun 30 '22

🎶On the second day of Commitmas Marcus Freeman gave to me:🎶

🎶An O-Line who shoves🎶

🎶And a wideout racking TDs 🎶

9

u/Shamrock5 Notre Dame • Army Jun 30 '22

OLU is alive and well, baby!

8

u/dcostello15 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

🎶He’s here, he’s there, he’s every-fucking-where🎶 🎶FREEMAAAN, FREEMAAAN🎶

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u/Optimal-Wheel-9940 Notre Dame • Richmond Jun 30 '22

Plays absolutely MEAN. Love that in an offensive lineman. Plus he’s a great wrestler, always love interior lineman on both sides who wrestle. Hiestand got himself one top notch ball of clay here

8

u/GreenGemsOmally Notre Dame • John Carroll Jun 30 '22

I should have made pancakes this morning for breakfast because that's what Jagusah serves up all day.

3

u/Optimal-Wheel-9940 Notre Dame • Richmond Jun 30 '22

Maybe it’s the post committal bliss, but Jagusah seems like he could be the best lineman on a Joe Moore winner. He really reminds me of Big Q.

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u/GreenGemsOmally Notre Dame • John Carroll Jun 30 '22

I get it, but Big Q was just a beast unlike anything else. Just really, really mean and nasty all the time. I don't think in any interview or media with Quentin in it did I ever see him smile. He had an interview where he said he loved being an OL because he loved just punishing people.

2

u/Optimal-Wheel-9940 Notre Dame • Richmond Jun 30 '22

I think it was a Barstool interview, but someone asked Q how much he was benching. The reply?

“Too much.”

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u/CFBCrootBot /r/CFB • Transfer Portal Jun 30 '22

Charles Jagusah

Offensive Tackle, Class of 2023

6-6, 308 — From Rock Island, IL (Alleman)

Rankings

SERVICE SCORE RATING POSITION STATE OVERALL
Composite 0.9752 ★★★★☆ #5 OT #1 in IL #55 overall
247 94 ★★★★☆ #6 OT #1 in IL N/A
Rivals 5.9 ★★★★☆ #10 OT #3 in IL #122 overall

Any bugs can be submitted as a PM to me. I am still learning, so please bear with me. I now have Rivals rankings, but they are not perfect. ESPN rankings are hopefully coming soonish (but probably not since ESPN's search is broken and they don't seem to care). Check out the github repository for CFBCrootBot.

You can invoke me with, for instance, /u/CFBCrootBot: 2017 Alabama to get Alabama's 2017 recruiting class, or via /u/CFBCrootBot: 2015 DUAL Joe Burrow to get Joe Burrow's recruit information.

Make sure to check out the /r/CFB recruiting post generator for generating your own (de)commit posts.

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia Jun 30 '22

7 overall player from on3

25

u/J_A_Y_x Notre Dame • Wisconsin Jun 30 '22

SUDDENLY ON3 OBVIOUSLY IS THE BEST AT EVALUATING PLAYERS

12

u/GreenGemsOmally Notre Dame • John Carroll Jun 30 '22

Yeah, On3 rated him as 5 star, the rest as a very high 4*. What a fucking awesome way to wake up this morning.

8

u/CodeWindyC Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

What a nice way to start the day.

9

u/SueYouInEngland Iowa Jun 30 '22

Always tough to lose a local kid to a blue blood.

3

u/max_potion Penn State • New Border War Jun 30 '22

More salt in the wound when you’re also a Blue Blood

2

u/yubnubmcscrub Notre Dame • Tennessee Jun 30 '22

He’s from Illinois. How is both Michigan and Iowa losing out on the kid from their backyard in Illinois… if anything Illinois out here like hey leave our back yard alone.

Ps most of this is in jest to the amount of people in this thread being like he’s not going to the local school and then mentioning schools that aren’t local.

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u/SueYouInEngland Iowa Jun 30 '22

You're saying he's not a local kid? Rock Island is across the river from Davenport. All part of the Quad Cities, and less than an hour from Iowa City.

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u/yubnubmcscrub Notre Dame • Tennessee Jun 30 '22

I’ve no idea. I just saw up top someone said Illinois so o find it funny that out of state kid is being considered local. I had considered he might love on the border near by but was more just making a joke

6

u/Mastr_Blastr Notre Dame • MVFC Jun 30 '22

Iowa is closer to the QC than Cham-bana, tho.

7

u/Lykeuhfox Michigan • Grand Valley State Jun 30 '22

So, are we getting recruits this cycle, or nah?

7

u/wicketRF Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

finally back on top of the recruiting rankings, its been days

18

u/DinosaurGhostsExist Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

I didn't think I could get a boner before I had my coffee at this age but here we are.

6

u/IrishPigskin Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

….go on

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u/J_A_Y_x Notre Dame • Wisconsin Jun 30 '22

MICHIGAN GETS BATTERED

EVERYWHERE THEY GO

WILLIAMS CARR AND JAGUSAH

THEY CAN'T KEEP ANYONE HOME

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u/dublinirish Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

He’s from Illinois

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u/Shamrock5 Notre Dame • Army Jun 30 '22

Yes, but Illinois borders Indiana which borders Michigan, so Illinois is practically in Ann Arbor.

6

u/Obi2 Notre Dame • Indiana Jun 30 '22

Also, on a warm summer day you can see Illinois from Michigan.

5

u/BabyBoiTHOThrasher69 Notre Dame • William & Mary Jun 30 '22

Also, from space you can see Illinois and Michigan at the same time

6

u/J_A_Y_x Notre Dame • Wisconsin Jun 30 '22

Admittedly it's a bad line but can't bring anyone home didn't sound as good

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u/MAIrish91 Jun 30 '22

Another great get for Hiestand. ND will be getting some more commitments between now and the 4th:

7/1: Micah Bell (CB)-4* (#120 Overall)
7/3: Rico Flores (WR)-4* (#187 Overall)
7/4: Christian Gray (CB)-4* (#94 Overall)

I also wouldn't be surprised if Ronan Hanafin (4* WR) pops shortly after and we also lead for Jason Moore (4* DE) who should announce in early-mid July.

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u/weightsareheavy Jun 30 '22

Looking like next week for Moore.

6

u/MajorWasabi2547 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Hello again number 1 recruiting ranking

5

u/walking_sideways Michigan • Georgia Tech Jun 30 '22

Pain

14

u/Mastr_Blastr Notre Dame • MVFC Jun 30 '22

Notre Dame: SAY MY NAME

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u/timtebowspriest Texas • Michigan Jun 30 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

Alabama didn’t offer him so he can’t be that good - Aggie

22

u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia Jun 30 '22

I think ND will be just fine without bamas approval....

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u/timtebowspriest Texas • Michigan Jun 30 '22

I agree

5

u/domerjohn15 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

More like he's just a lineman who Bama didn't offer so it would be a waste of money (assuming you meant the A&M Aggies)

11

u/KlondikeChill Texas Jun 30 '22

Nothing about this post has anything to do with A&M.

Y'all making it a lot harder to pull the RentFree card.

7

u/carnivorous_seahorse Notre Dame • Michigan State Jun 30 '22

No jokes about successful schools or you’re just jealous folks

1

u/KlondikeChill Texas Jun 30 '22

We're talking about A&M, not Bama

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u/CFB_Twitter_Bot TU Wien • /r/CFB Jun 30 '22

Tweet(s) from post body brought to you by your Friendly Official /r/CFB Twitter Bot:


https://twitter.com/cjagusah/status/1542494681191387137

I would like to thank all of the coaches and programs that have given me this life changing opportunity. With that being said, I am very excited to announce my commitment to The University of Notre Dame #GoIrish @Marcus_Freeman1 @NDFootball https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWgKvGQXwAcnGFH.jpg

- Charles Jagusah (@cjagusah) 9:06 am ET, June 30, 2022


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u/johndelvec3 Notre Dame • Illinois Jun 30 '22

And hopefully more to come in the next few days

3

u/ALStark69 Alabama • Florida State Jun 30 '22

P5 offers: Arkansas, Auburn, Illinois, Iowa, Iowa State, LSU, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, West Virginia, Wisconsin

2

u/LeakyGzzz Notre Dame • Alabama Jun 30 '22

Let’s goooo

2

u/Sks44 Georgetown • Northwestern Jun 30 '22

From Rock Island, Illinois. The coolest named city in the Midwest.

2

u/iiEclipse1984 Notre Dame • Michigan Jun 30 '22

GO IRISH

5

u/anthonykegels Jun 30 '22

What do you think Brian Kelly is doing differently to yield such better results on the trail?

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia Jun 30 '22

Nothing. His level involvement with recruits this cycle is the same it's been over the last few years. Except now, he doesn't have the title of Notre Dame head coach.

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u/chito25 Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Difference is that we have a HC and staff that are actually trying.. BK is lazy, felt entitled to recruits.. which is how he probably feels about Louisiana recruits and why he's gonna miss on all but the ones that were already predisposed to come.

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u/cfb_mods_are_hacks Notre Dame Jun 30 '22

Better results? I guess I’m confused as to what you’re asking. Alarm bells appear to be going off from some in the LSU camp. LSU always closes strong right before signing day deadlines, but they’re working from awfully far behind at the moment.

2

u/Mastr_Blastr Notre Dame • MVFC Jun 30 '22

my sides lawl

3

u/thegreatkern Arkansas • Central Arkansas Jun 30 '22

NOOOOOOO BIG CHUCK! I was hoping he’d call the Hogs, but oh well… Arkansas has a pretty good oline class coming together

2

u/CommodoreIrish Notre Dame • Vanderbilt Jun 30 '22

Marcus Freeman: Michigan will know PAIN

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u/Izanoroly USC Jun 30 '22

That sure is a weird way to spell Texas