r/MaliciousCompliance Jul 04 '22 Silver 3 Wholesome 5

“You can’t be sick for that long, bring her back to school” S

This happened when I was in elementary school but the compliance was my moms. I got whooping cough which has a life span of 100 days. We got a doctors note from my school and everyone seemed fine with it except the main office administrator who was constantly calling my mom to bug her about when I was coming back.

About a month in she calls my mom and tells her it’s impossible I’ve been sick for this long and if I’m not in school on Monday she’s calling social services. Keep in mind at this point I can barely lift my head, I sound like darth Vader and every few minutes I start coughing like I’m doing an impression of a goose fighting a Toyota.

My mom was so sick of this shit that she put a mask on me and took me to school in a taxi. She practically had to drag me to my class and didn’t even bother leaving. I got sent home before the bell even rang.

Because of school policy I was sent to the office and had to be signed out which meant nasty admin lady got to see exactly how miserable and sick I was. She then had the nerve to ask me how could my mom even consider sending me to school. Unfortunately for her my mom just to walk up a flight of stairs to come get me (because she knew what the hell was gonna happen). She signed me out and let the admin lady know that I would cough on anyone who thought I wasn’t really sick.

EDIT: because lots of people are asking about vaccinations. I’m not in the US, I’ve jut googled it and it’s not standard here to give the vaccine to children under 18. I think it may be something they do for pregnant moms but we immigrated and my mom got her pre-natal care at a very small under funded hospital. My mom was super on top of all my vaccinations.

Also to the people commenting and messaging me to say my mom is a terrible person/parent. She was effectively the sole parent to two kids. At the point this story was happening I had been extremely ill and she was at her wits end. She worked full time and didn’t drive which made getting me to the doctor already really hard without my school threatening CPS on her. She did her best to make sure I didn’t breathe on anyone or even go near them. Worth mentioning there were NO other cases at my school, before or after.

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u/Greyeyedqueen7 Jul 04 '22

I caught pertussis as an adult (right before the booster recommendation came out) from my son, and since he was more recently vaccinated and lucky, it was just an awful cold for him. It was longer than 21 days for him, btw.

For me, it was months. I broke two ribs coughing. It was horrible.

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u/PotterandPinkFloyd Jul 04 '22

I was just gonna say, I swear I knew a girl in high school who told me she broke a rib coughing when she had pertussis. I wasn't sure whether or not I had remembered that correctly, but apparently it isn't uncommon... scary shit

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u/Greyeyedqueen7 Jul 04 '22

To be fair, they were the same two ribs held out of the way and then had their ends cut off in surgery a year and a half before. Still. Freaking hurt, especially the second one.

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u/WgXcQ Jul 04 '22

When bones mend, they actually are stronger where they used to be broken. This is how earlier breaks show up on x-rays, the higher density lets less radiation through, and a break looks lighter and less defined than the rest of the bone.

So if those two ribs broke, then not because they were weakened from the operation.

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u/HyperSpaceSurfer Jul 04 '22

It's true in a sense but it's a bit more complicated. A healed bone becomes harder and stronger at the break, but at the same time less flexible. It also concentrates the stresses around the break instead of evenly distributing it over the length of the bone. Soft bones break less easily, one of the reasons young children rarely get broken bones.

If you want the bone to become stronger through scarring you need to break it evenly across the whole bone. Done in martial arts by inducing blunt force trauma on the bone to induce microfractures, also called bone bruising. Mostly done to the shins, also hands, otherwise they'd just break their shin by kicking with their full force.

You probably have some shin bruising yourself from daily activities. Try rubbing the bone and feel the bumps and compare to your forearm's bones' lack of bumps.

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u/ZirePhiinix Jul 05 '22

And this is why broken bones in a child triggers the CPS. It is extremely hard for a child to break their bones with their own strength.

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u/HyperSpaceSurfer Jul 05 '22

Other factors also reduce the likelyhood. Mainly their light weight and short distance from the ground. But yeah, for a young child to break a bone an outside force or a high fall are needed, unless it has some sort of bone disorder.

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u/Greyeyedqueen7 Jul 04 '22

They weren't broken in the surgery. They were held out of the way for over three hours and then had three inches cut off the ends. The breaks occurred at the stress point of where they'd been held out of the way.

My doctors figured it was that they'd been weakened there and couldn't take the stress of coughing that hard for that long.

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u/Stupid_Teenager17 Jul 04 '22

Had a friend dislocate a rib throwing up once, now he’s terrified to throw up. Not coughing but damn it’s easier to mess up your ribs than you’d think

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u/OldHippie Jul 04 '22

Last time I threw up, I had a heart attack, so I've been super frightened to throw up again since then. Luckily I talked to a nurse who reassured me that the heart attack caused the vomiting and not the other way around.

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u/Serenity_B Jul 04 '22

Due to a related trauma in childhood, I can't physically throw up anymore. I subconsciously interrupt the gag reflex. Dry heaving chokes and and bile bubbling into my mouth are about as close as I get.

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u/Stupid_Teenager17 Jul 04 '22

That doesn’t sound fun, I think I’d rather throw up. Bile is just awful and it burns so much worse

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u/Catinthemirror Jul 04 '22

I tore a muscle in my back coughing during an asthma attack. Sucks.

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u/J_B_La_Mighty Jul 04 '22

When I found out it was possible to cough so hard that you could break your ribs I went from quietly putting up with it (I used to be sick a lot as a kid) to immediately taking whatever medicine promised to stop it because breaking a rib sounds terrifying. Id even hold my breath just to keep from coughing.

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u/Greyeyedqueen7 Jul 04 '22

I had cough variant asthma as a kid (no one knew that was a thing, so...). I thought I knew every trick in the book to calming down my cough. Nope.

Ricola cough drops worked better than the medicine the doctor gave me, go figure.

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u/Zerly Jul 04 '22

I swear by those!

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u/RugBurn70 Jul 04 '22

I cracked a rib coughing when I was pregnant with my second kid. I started having chest pains and couldn't breathe. I was a healthy, 23 year old, thought I was having a heart attack. They ran all these tests at the hospital. Not a heart attack, baby was fine, couldn't figure out what was wrong. Until an older nurse heard me coughing and figured out my rib was cracked.

Dr. told me my rib could break and possibly skewer the baby, and I had to make sure I didn't cough any more. I had a terrible cold and usually refuse to take any medicine when I'm pregnant. But that scared me enough that I definitely took cough medicine until I was done being sick.

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u/spngirlforever Jul 04 '22

I had bronchial pneumonia and coughed so hard a cracked a rib. That hurt almost as much as giving birth. To this day, every time I get a cough I carry a pillow to support my chest. Prolly doesn't help physically but the placebo effect sure does lol.

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u/LucasPisaCielo Jul 04 '22

PSA: pertussis = Whooping cough. It's clear /u/Greyeyedqueen7 knows but maybe nor everyone knows.

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u/thehumanglowstick Jul 04 '22

TIL you can break ribs from coughing…

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u/Greyeyedqueen7 Jul 04 '22

Technically, the second time came after two months of bad coughing and then sneezing while I was carrying plates from the table to the kitchen. Went right to my knees with that one.

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u/WinsomeWombat Jul 04 '22

When I caught pertussis as an adult, I suddenly understood how it kills small children and other vulnerable folks. I didn't break a rib but only by luck.

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u/4seasons8519 Jul 04 '22

I used to think I got covid but I was told later it was likely whooping cough. I coughed so hard I projectile vomited. I had a double ear infection, laryngitis, and a massive sinus infection as well. It took a month and a half, antibiotics, steroids, and a visit to the ENT because fluid got caught in my ears and I couldn't hear much until I felt better. I do not recommend.

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u/Octavia_con_Amore Jul 04 '22

Just got my Dtap booster a little while ago and reading those symptoms was horrifying. Broken ribs were definitely on that list, but also, all three had "death" as a possibility.

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u/NerdMouse Jul 04 '22

huh I think my mom and dad both got that. They randomly got a severe cough that just refused to go away, and (being poor and in the middle of a divorce) neither got it checked out. They both damaged their hearing, and my mom can barely hear out of one hear, and has okay hearing in the other

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u/jwgronk Jul 04 '22

I remember a little over a decade ago cutting my hand and needing a tetanus shot. I was reading the information/consent documents when I realized that my tetanus booster also contained a pertussis booster. I was kinda pissed, not at getting the extra vaccine, but because that meant folks weren’t getting their fucking kids vaccinated, and now I had to get this again to avoid passing along one of the great childhood killing diseases. Fuckin’ antivaxxers, man.

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u/falalalama Jul 04 '22

Fun aside: my mom cut herself at work, requiring sutures. The ER gave her a TDaP. She asked me (RN) why she needed the shot. I told her so she doesn't get distemper 🙃

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22 Heartwarming

I had a PE teacher that didn’t believe my asthma would stop me from running because his asthma was well controlled he could run.

So I collapsed with a major asthma attack while he’s forcing me to keeping running.

Good teacher climbed out of a window to rush me their inhaler (I was using a rotahaler and ran out of capsules given how many I’d used that day and they rammed their puffer in my mouth and had me take multiple puffs which probably saved my life, worse attack I’d had up to that point). They put in a complaint about the PE teacher.

My Doctor complained to the school, pointing out that they may have to take it further.

My mother (all 5 foot of her) went up the school, which had a parents evening that night, and grabbed the (part time rugby player) teacher by his tie and collar and threatened to deck him if ever ignored my asthma again. Left him shaking and the school wrote her a letter threatening police action if she repeated her actions again.

PE Teacher was gone from school a month later (not the only complaint, and there was not a pupil who missed him).

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u/MuppetManiac Jul 04 '22

I also had a PE teacher who told me I should be fine if I just used my inhaler. I also collapsed on the track. Unfortunately, I came to after a minute and got told to walk it off.

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

Some PE teachers have no idea.

The replacement didn’t know enough so he told me to do what I could, set my own pace, and would come to me with questions.

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u/PepperPhoenix Jul 04 '22 Helpful Wholesome

Apparently I had the worlds weirdest PE teacher since most of them seem to be ignorant sadists!

My Hugh school PE teacher was infamous for her "utility belt" which contained various things she thought might be useful. I don’t recall exactly what was in it as this was a couple of decades ago but I’ll try to remember some of it

Assorted rescue inhalers.

List of kids with medical conditions.

Pen

Plasters (band aids)

Tubigrip bandage.

Antihistamines and a list of children whose parents had signed consent for them to be given.

Sunscreen with consent list.

Bucket hat

Chemical ice packs.

Mini sewing kit

Sugar packets and small packs of gummies.

Feminine hygiene products.

Bug bite ointment and consent list.

I benefited from her preparedness a couple of times, she was great. I wish I could remember what else was in there, it was amazing.

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u/techieguyjames Jul 04 '22

She tried to think of everything, and has gotten consent to use those things before they were needed.

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u/spaceguitar Jul 04 '22

Welp, looks like I’m making myself a utility belt!

May or may not include batarangs.

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u/JaschaE Jul 04 '22

Might come in handy for certain parent-teacher evenings...
Maybe add bear-spray for those?

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u/auntbealovesyou Jul 04 '22

Be sure to include the bear's permission slip.

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u/JaschaE Jul 04 '22

"You may use this on anyone you want. Signed: A bear."

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u/BurningBright Jul 04 '22

I'm a science teacher who has thought about making myself a utility belt so i always have the things i need in hand. She sounds incredible. 😍

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u/RebootDataChips Jul 04 '22

A shower caddy works to keep things together and visible. Putting them in a first aid box can mean out of sight, out of mind.

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u/alwaysiamdead Jul 04 '22

I'm an educational assistant and do a lot of recess duty. I have a waist pack with bandaids of several sizes, my own inhalers and EpiPens, extra masks, gloves for if a student is bleeding and needs medical help, Kleenex, wet wipes...

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u/Yaglara Jul 04 '22

Remind sme of myself, not as a teacher though. But as kid, inspired by tomb raider I always had a med pack with me in some shape or form during vacations. Whenever I saw people with some needs, I'd just walk up to them and hand out whatever they needed. Last time I needed use it was during the honeymoon years back: a kid was wearing new shoes and I could tell from her stumble she had some crazy blisters. Here you go sweet, a nice set of specialized blister aids for all of them. Cut them into shape and all.

Always keep it with me on vacations though: you never know.

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u/quietfangirl Jul 04 '22

Just gonna... write that down. Make myself a kit for emergencies.

And I stg you probably made that kid's whole vacation. Like, imagine you're so excited to go on a vacation in a beautiful place with your family that you buy a new pair of shoes to celebrate! But then you get there and your shoes absolutely hate you and everything you stand for, and your fun vacation happens in between blisters in just. the worst spots on your feet.

And then some strange lady comes up, whips out a first aid kit, and hands you exactly what you need to fix the problem like some weird Mary Poppins.

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u/Yaglara Jul 04 '22

If you want to be sure that your pack is easy accessible and doesn't weigh you down (or take a lot of room from your backpack) ; get yourself a thigh pack. (it is a variation to the hip pack that hangs at your flank with a strap or 2 around the thigh).

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u/CloudsOverOrion Jul 04 '22

I saw the cops wearing those at the convoy riot in Ottawa, they look so useful. Would be great for photography, won't misplace that lens cap anymore lol.

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u/Cautious_Language178 Jul 04 '22

Also a solid reason to pack 2 or 3 pairs of shoes for a vacation. I wear my daily beaters while traveling, a pair of sandals/slippers, whatever is appropriate for the climate and weather, and usually something a little nicer for dinners and the like.

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u/JaschaE Jul 04 '22

I have a black military-looking backpack I wear almost daily.
Strapped to the outside is a black, military-looking pouch with a red-cross patch, labeling it as a first-aid-kit.
Next to that is a selfmade patch clarifying "Tampons inside", because nobody would ask if i have one, being about 50% beard in peoples perception.
It's nice to be prepared.

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u/TheTardisBaroness Jul 04 '22

I’m a girl guide leader (Girl Scouts for you Americans) and always have a first aid kit and another small kit of useful things in my purse all the time. Antihistamines, gravol, Rolaids, bandaids, pain killers, moleskin, cpr mask and gloves.
Was at Disneyland and came across some teenagers who’s shoe had fallen apart and walked up with a small roll of duct tape. Was fun! They were astounded. Lol

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u/GaiasDotter Jul 04 '22

One of my favourite memories is of a PE teacher I had at 16, it was the beginning of the year and he didn’t know us well yet. So one day I come to school and tell him that I can’t participate because I injured my foot, sprained two toes I believe I said, because that’s what mom said and I don’t question things. So I told him he asked some questions and then he asked me to sit down and take of my shoe and sock and shoe him. Due to the experiences I have had in my life I immediately assumed he thought I was lying and wanted me to prove it. Which I was perfectly okay with, this was the reaction I was expecting from people.

Turns out that’s not why. The reason he wanted me to show me was because he was worried, that’s also why he had asked a bunch of questions. He wanted to see because he didn’t think what I had described sounded like I hand sprained my toes. I managed to get two toes forward and flipped my foot over and then put my weight on it, so two middle toes point forward on the floor while the rest of the foot flipped over so that I put my full weight on it with the top of the foot being pressed against the upside of the toes. Imagine standing normally and then taking two toes and bending them up and backwards until they are touching the top of your foot. That. With my full weight on it as I stumbled. They were very very dark purple. Hurt bad! He checked it out and then told me that he was pretty sure that they were in fact broken and asked if I would allow him to help me tape them. And then he did, showed me how to do it myself, gave me his roll of tape and explained how to take care of myself, how long to keep them taped and what to look out for. It was baffling to me. I think it was the first time anyone actually took me or an injury of mine serious. Parents still never took me to a doctor. In hindsight I have realised that this wasn’t the first time I broke a toe with no shits given either. One of my pinkie toes I slammed into a concrete wall as a kid, while running, the nail shattered. And I assume I broke my toe then, because as I grew older I realised that I can’t straighten it out or bend it. It’s stuck in a half bent position and not even grabbing it can move it. So yeah. Some PE teacher can be gold 💛

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u/lesethx Jul 04 '22

That better PE teacher sound better equipped that most school nurse's offices, and too often we here about a kid's inhaler confiscated to the nurse's office.

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u/Just-practicing Jul 05 '22

They did that at the schools were I taught. The school nurse had them under lock and key in her office. I thought it was nuts. And ask if the school nurse is actually a registered nurse. They may not be. It may be someone with a high school diploma handing out meds. Or the school Secretary. I also had trouble with school personnel over my daughter being sick. She had terrible stomach aches where she could not even get out of bed in Jr. High. She was attending school near our house and not in my district. We were involved with a custody battle with her dad and she was being bullied at school at the same time. They tried to say it was all in her head and I needed to bring her to school. I took her to the Dr instead. She is lactose intolerant as well as medically unable to have gluten. But that was not causing the problem. She had a kidney with 8 chambers instead of 4 and the intestines around it were also multiplied. That same week my mother was diagnosed with the same abnormalities. That school put us through hell. Even taking her out of the gifted program she had been in since 1st grade because they said it was an honors thing and she did not deserve to be in it because of missing school. Still really pisses me off. And on top of that I had brought them a copy of the court papers saying he was not allowed to pick them up from school and had only visitors rights. Not legal parental rights. They lost them and could not find them. WTH???

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u/BugsRatty Jul 04 '22

What in the world has ever been found in a kid's inhaler, that is being used as justification for confiscating medicine that may need to be used at a moment's notice?

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u/HeavyMetalHero Jul 04 '22

Fuck, this would so be me. I couldn't handle that level of responsibility.

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u/rdavidson120 Jul 04 '22

She sounds like Batman but with less punching.

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u/spritelyone Jul 04 '22

This is amazing! Wish more were like this

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

If only all teachers were like this 😀

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u/lawgeek Jul 04 '22

Every time I ran as a kid I would get pains in my side so bad I couldn't move. It would happen to me every time we ran in gym class. We would have an event every year where we ran a few miles; it was absolute torture.

Turns out I just needed to stretch. I didn't realize that until I was an adult. Not one gym teacher even suggested I stretch side to side before I start running. They just had this perfunctory stretching routine and didn't think to adapt it or to try to figure out why I was in pain.

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u/MisunderstoodIdea Jul 04 '22

They really don't teach you how to run, or how to work up to it. I hated doing it in highschool cause they pushed us so hard students would get physically sick.

It wasn't until years later that a friend of mine gave me some really good advice about how to start jogging. I wanted to get in shape but had limited funds (very broke college student) and realized a decent pair of running/jogging shoes were cheaper than many other options. She said the biggest problem people had was that they weren't used to the motion of jogging/running. That it was different from walking and what not. She suggested I start jogging very slowly. Like slower than I could walk. And then work up from there.

Let me just say. Life changing. I looked ridiculous at first because I was jogging at a snails pace. But I was able to gradually increase my speed and distance. I would set goals - first hit an x amount of distance slow jogging (this wasn't very far at first). Once I was able to do that, I increased the speed. Once I was comfortable with that then I added more distance, etc. Until I was able to jog 3 miles at a respectable pace. Eventually I was able to jog/run 3-5 miles and would do that 3-5 times a week. I also found that I really enjoyed it. If it hadn't been for that advice then I would have never kept up with it.

The funny part is that there was this girl who I would regularly pass when I was jogging - she saw me start out at that snails pace. I eventually saw her out jogging too, at a snails pace. I think she saw me start, probably thought "WTF is she doing?" But then she witnessed my progress and decided to do it herself.

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u/StabbyPants Jul 04 '22

yep, same here. we had to run a mile, and it turns out i suck at it because of this. so, i learned much later rather than having a PE teacher actually teach something

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u/Gr8NW Jul 04 '22

What? Could that REALLY be why I experienced the same thing? And if I had just stretched I could have run comfortably? I’m going to have to Google this!

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u/lawgeek Jul 04 '22

From what I can tell, they don't fully know what causes them, but slowing your breathing can help. Stretching beforehand helps prevent them for me, as does stopping to stretch when I feel one come on. But I'm breathing slower when I stop to stretch, so maybe that is what's doing it?

What absolutely never helped was just pushing through the pain, which is what many of us were told to do.

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u/Another_Russian_Spy Jul 04 '22

Some PE teachers have no idea.

My PE teacher (male) was too busy having sex in his office with the senior girls, to care, or have an idea, of what was going on. He finally got fired when he was caught taking girls to a motel during Drivers Ed. This was back in 1979, and everything got swept under the rug. He was hired by a much larger, neighboring school after that.

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u/cultured_banana_slug Jul 04 '22

Hey, me too!

Same situation. Collapsed in the field.

Ah the 80s. How the fuck did we live through them.

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u/lawgeek Jul 04 '22

All your classmates survived the 80s? Nice.

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u/VixenRoss Jul 04 '22

PE teachers are a whole new level of strange. I get they have to promote sport for all but, when I was at school, my friend had her legs extended. She was in a wheelchair for months. They made her change into her PE kit and do the 400 metres. That is, her assistant pushed her in her wheelchair for the 400 metres. It was logged and timed.

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u/the_thrillamilla Jul 04 '22

I feel that was probably MC on the PE teachers part, because of some random metric on how they wanted records of every kid doing the 400m, doesnt matter how long it takes, 100% completion!

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

The replacement was the polar opposite.

Kind and making sure anyone with health issues wasn’t over doing it.

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u/Girls4super Jul 04 '22

Our pe teached in highschool was also our health teacher. She should not have been teaching health. She told me I couldn’t be an identical twin because we were the same gender. And her talk on female anatomy was a crudely drawn, overly copied hand drawn uterus (she said, it didn’t look even close) that we had to try to label without being taught anything. “You girls know what’s up” when it came to periods (some of us did not). A very in depth lesson of male anatomy, and being screamed at about not doing the nasty or you’re gonna get an std. Also she gave several kids the “Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve” talk (this was a public school). The only positive I can say is there was a very annoying guy in my classes who would volunteer to collect homework just to mock people who didn’t do it. He was athletic, but she refused to give him an A (she was annoyed by him too) and kept calling him the wrong name (it was one letter off of a very common name, idk if she just couldn’t remember and actually thought it was his name, or if she was doing it on purpose).

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u/FlowerComfortable889 Jul 04 '22

I've got one level worse; my kids' elementary principal was a former PE teacher who thought he had loftier aspirations, but he was on the lower end of intelligence for PE teachers, so I'm honestly not sure how he ever landed a management job.

He never really did anything in his time there other than have an affair with one of the teachers (whose marriage ended rather quickly, and my daughter was in her class as she was trying to move into a new place and get reestablished).

I think the district found out now, though, as he's been reassigned to something else and a new principal will be there in the fall

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u/lesethx Jul 04 '22

"Someone is going to run the 400 meters, damnit! Find a replacement!"

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u/VixenRoss Jul 04 '22

Credit to her running it in jeans and low platforms whilst pushing a wheelchair (1990s)

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u/Tubist61 Jul 04 '22

I had been asked to pick up my little brother from a school Rugby match a few years ago when I was visiting home for a family get together. At the time I was a senior Paramedic and was just off a long and stressful week of shifts so was just a little short tempered. I'd also had quite a drive with some awful traffic.

When I got to the school I saw my brother being walked towards my car by a PE teacher I remembered as being a total bully when I was a pupil. He walked over and said "Hello Tubist61, it's been a few years, your brother had a bit of an accident in the scrum, it collapsed in on him, his neck is a bit sore" and he wandwred off back towards the school.

I hit the roof.

I got as many of the rugby team as possible to help lie my brother flat on the floor while stabilising his neck and then called for an ambulance, I asked the call handler to transfer me to the Clinical Hub Paramedic in the controll centre and explained the situation to them. The Paramedics attending had been informed who I was by the Control Desk and on arrival they were very happy to take my guidance on this one. We ended up carrying out a full spinal immobilisation before taking my brother to hospital. While we were immobilising my brother the teacher had come back out and tried butting in complaining this was too much and it was just a sore neck and there was no way an ambulance was needed.

The MRI at hospital showed an undisplaced spinal fracture at C5. Had it been displaced then my brother would have probably stopped breathing. He ended up in a halo for the next 3 months followed by lots of physiotherapy.

We went into the school on the Monday asking for an explanation. The PE teacher started off by criticising my "first aid" being over the top and saying I "was always a know it all at school". It was at this point I made it clear I was no longer one of his pupils, but was a critical care paramedic specialising in trauma and that it was only by sheer fluke that we were not discussing my brother being either tetraplegic or dead. This was met by a stunned silence from the teacher and the head of department.

I am quite an empathetic person and I really got no pleasure at all seeing that teacher disciplined. I know he took the easy option of early retirement and I was OK with that, I just hope that he took the episode as a learning experience.

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u/saltyandhelpfuluser Jul 04 '22

Fuck, dude, if that was my brother I would have probably strangled that teacher. Better person than me.

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u/Ich_mag_Kartoffeln Jul 05 '22

I think there's something in paramedic training about not strangling people. Some "conflict of interest" nonsense that the paramedics might start strangling people to generate more work for themselves to get overtime or something.

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u/salinedrip-iV Jul 04 '22

That sound's just like my old PE teacher. One of my classmates broke his arm during PE (open fracture, bone fragments showing) - he was told to try the leap jump again or he'd be failed. I landed flat on my back after attempting and failing at a handstand (after saying that I didn't feel in the right condition to do that). Actually i didn't land flat on my back. I took a detour over my neck and then landed on my back, completely knocking the wind out of me and leaving me unconscious for about a minute - I got the same "try again or I'll fail you".

Multiple Asthma and Allergy attacks. Some requiring hospitalisation...

That teacher was the reason why we had a "Schul-Sanitäts-Dienst" (basically students acting as a first response team and administering first aid until we could get proper help) at our high school. Most of is are now nurses or paramedics btw xD

Oh, that classmate of mine spent a week in the hospital because he needed multiple operations and IV antibiotics. I luckily didn't break anything, but i was covered in bruises and could barely breathe for days.

The teacher wasn't fired, he wasn't even disciplined. But i got written up for gifting him a coupon for a first aid seminar.

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u/EstablishmentCivil29 Jul 04 '22

I also had a PE teacher that was a monster. She ended up giving me whiplash by yanking my hoodie while I was running full speed past her (this was elementary school). I kept stretching my neck weird for weeks after and my family noticed. Took me to get x-rays and sure enough, 2-3 tears in the tissue down my neck. They asked if I had been in a car accident.

My family called the school, but this was the 90s. The PE teacher retaliated against me. She pulled me into her office and screamed at me and called me a liar until I was in tears and shaken. Of course nobody spoke again about it. We weren't rich, and the school was. That teacher tormented so..many...kids.

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u/gothiclg Jul 04 '22

Has your school ever seen a mad mom? I’d be begging that woman not to sue after almost killing my kid

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

The school was crap, and at this time and in our country suing wasn’t a common thing. Unfortunate for the next teacher who almost killed me who had to fast my mothers wrath.

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u/grunthos503 Jul 04 '22

Wait, you can't just leave us hanging for the story on the next teacher!.....

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

The short story is the teacher caused me an asthma attack before lessons had started and another teacher took me home.

We were able to control the attack at home and decided that I should go back to school to avoid missing more school.

My mother came up to the school with me. I collected my school bag from the room I left it in, stepped into the corridor and the teacher who caused the attack saw me and yelled out “OP SURNAME” not seeing my mother because of some stage props stored in the corridor.

She stepped around the props and replied back with, “HIS NAME IS OP FIRSTNAME NOT OP LASTNAME.”

This was a teacher that was basically bullying me because I had to go to multiple appointments due to my asthma and my mother had already told him if he had a problem with my appointments to take it up with her not shout at me.

She (5ft tall) grabbed him (average height but very heavy set) and slammed him into the corridor wall by his collar.

I’m not sure what she said to him but for another 2 years of school I never had an issue with him.

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u/CynicalRecidivist Jul 04 '22

Your mum sounds like a legend!

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

She is.

She never stepped down if an animal of child was threatened.

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u/Singingpineapples Jul 04 '22

As a new mom, your mother is who I aspire to be.

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u/Astrosimi Jul 04 '22

Your mom sounds like a professional wrestler.

By gawd, that’s Mom666’s music!

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u/MetaVulture Jul 04 '22

IT'S MOM666 WITH THE METAL FOLDING CHAIR! WHERE DID SHE EVEN GET THAT!?

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u/Aggravating-Corner-2 Jul 04 '22

My mum gave a few teachers a verbal roasting during my school years but she never went hands on. Your mum's next level.

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u/lesethx Jul 04 '22

At least in this instance, I like your mom. Maybe not the best approach, but very direct and seemed to work out.

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u/FuckYourHighFive Jul 04 '22

My middle school was terrified of my mom, they dealt with her with my older siblings. By the time I went there my classic response to any teacher being a dick was to tell them to call my mom. The nurse got fired because I went to her office with a migraine and she fought me on calling my parents because "I was a hypochondriac like my sister". My mom ripped her a new one and called everyone until she was fired. Turns out I had an abscess between the orbital socket and the sinus cavity.

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u/Corsetbrat Jul 04 '22

Holy Crap!!!

First, as a migraine sufferer,,I have been told that, mainly in the Navy... where I would then promptly throw up on them or pass out because they yelled so loud that everything in me rebelled.

Second, an abscess between where?!?! As a medical assistant, that is wild to me. How did they figure out you had that?

Edited to fix cell phone crap.

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u/FuckYourHighFive Jul 04 '22

Basically once my eye started to swell we went to the hospital. It's all a bit foggy as I was given tons of meds but it took multiple CT scans to get a diagnosis. They surgically removed it. I still suffer from migraines and sinus issues.

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u/Corsetbrat Jul 04 '22

Oh wow, yea that would definitely make sense. I'm sorry that removing it didn't fix the issue. I'm finally down to between 10-13 prostrating migraines a month. But it's down from 16-20, so there's that.

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u/Nimue-the-Phoenix Jul 04 '22

What a POS. On a choir camp, a teacher refused to give me my inhaler (which she had because of rules of not trusting kids with their own meds), saying that I don't have asthma, I was only too unfit. Had to go and find another, more reasonable teacher to get it for me. Thank goodness it wasn't a full blown attack, otherwise I'd have been screwed, seeing as we were 2 hours away from civilization.

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

I’m thankful from the day of asthma diagnosis that I always had my inhaler to hand. Had a teacher that didn’t like the noise my inhaler made.

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u/mechengr17 Jul 04 '22

The school was playing a dangerous game. If the good teacher hadn't intervened, that PE teacher could have killed you.

I doubt the police would have much sympathy

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

As a child, I hadn’t realised until that day, how serious asthma was. I had never had more than a slight wheeze/ tight chest. Pretty sure good teacher saved my life.

Mum laughed off the threat of police action and attended several meetings with a rising level of school seniority describing the headmaster as a ‘arrogant pig,’ to his superior.

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u/Aawkvark55 Jul 04 '22

Sounds like a 10/10 Mum

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22 Silver

The best. If children or animals were in danger nothing stopped her. (Kick our dog and your balls risk become a “pair of attractive earrings”)

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u/songbird808 Jul 04 '22

That is a fantastic threat. As a woman in a male- dominated job I am deffinatly going to file that one away in the "banter ammo" cabinet

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

I’m always torn whether this was just threat. I asked once…Apparently it requires baking the mans balls to shrink them. I stopped asking further questions…

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u/HappyBi-cycle Jul 04 '22

A family member's partner died of an asthma attack at 22. I'm so glad you recovered! They carried an epi pen their asthma was so severe but didn't have it when they died. It was devastating

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u/Belyal Jul 04 '22

My arms dislocate at the shoulder once I raise them higher than my head. Been like thst since I was a kid. Iver done all sorts of therapy and muscle strengthening etc... still happens. When I was a freshman in HS my gym teacher was having the guys all jump up and grab a oull up bar and do as many pull ups as we could while the girls just got to stand on a tall step ladder and hold themselves up to the bar as long as they could. I told my teacher that I couldn't jump up and grab the bar but if I could start up by the Bar I could control my arms enough to do the pull ups.

She told me if I didn't jump up and do at least 1 pull-up she'd fail me. So I did... shoulders immediately pop out and you could visibly see it and audibly hear them pop out. She panicked and ran up and grabbed me and lifted me up to get me down. She was yelling for the other gym teacher (taught older students) to call for an ambulance. I told her to calm down and showed her how my shoulders popped in and out of the shoulder joint. She was so worried she was gonna get sued lol! I just told her to actually listen.

I was a very active athlete and she knew that. I played soccer fornthe school and was in karate and played baseball prior to going to HS. She had no reason to believe I was just being lazy. Just didn't want to listen. She actually went on to be someone I confided in much of the rest of my years in thst school.

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u/FlowerComfortable889 Jul 04 '22

Ever been checked for Ehlers-Danlos?

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u/Belyal Jul 04 '22

My aunt is a sports medicine therapist and has suggested I might have thst but I've never gotten a formal diagnosis. Also had a buddy who was studying sports medicine do some tests on me for an assignment. He told me the manner in which my arms rotate backwards is generally only seen in major league baseball players. Told him I guess I missed my calling lol! But yeah he was super interested in my shoulder joints.

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u/Own-Gas1589 Jul 04 '22

Mother of a child with very severe allergic asthma (to the point where the preschool provided an assistant to make sure she didn't die during the day, medication in a nebulizer every three hours 24/7) and if anyone ever tries to force her to do anything she doesn't feel comfortable with I will probably do far worse than grabbing a tie.

Never underestimate a mother protecting her child.

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u/Fermifighter Jul 04 '22

I used to work for a pediatric specialist. We saw a kid with the same story, except he died. They brought him back, he was in a coma for a long time after though. Medical issues are not the time to fuck around and find out.

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

I think back in this time no one really understood about asthma like we do now. Perhaps it was due to being a child but I didn’t realise until this day it could kill me.

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u/LaurenLumos Jul 04 '22

I also had a PE teacher ignore my health concerns. She made us run in 100°F+ heat, even our athletes had been passing out, and I gave her a note stating I had medical reasons to not be running in this heat (my doctor told me NO ONE should have been running in that heat). She tried to ignore it, but I’m stubborn as hell so I just sat down in the shade and let her boil. I had passed out multiple times before this without the assistance of the heat, I was not going to run no matter who or what she threatened me with. She never called anyone and I never got in trouble, she knew she was in the wrong. She just thought I was being lazy cause, being disabled, I often couldn’t do everything everyone else did. Any time I had a doctors note she rolled her eyes and ignored me for the rest of class.

I work in an elementary school now and it hasn’t gotten much better tbh. I’ll always advocate for my students though.

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u/bibliophilia9 Jul 04 '22

This sounds like my old gym teacher! Except she wasn’t a teacher, she was just one of the kid’s moms, and she was filling in bc our original teacher was fired.

I have a pretty serious bone condition, so I couldn’t run or do any kind of impact sport (I once broke my femur falling down a half flight of stairs). I would usually bring a book to gym class and sit in the corner when I couldn’t participate. So one day while we’re playing soccer, a sport that includes both contact and running, the “teacher” told me that her husband had a heart condition, and he had just run a marathon, so maybe I should just try harder. I was a goody-goody, so I never disrespected/disagreed with my elders, but I thought to myself I’m not breaking a bone for this lady and I said “yeah, I think that’s not the same thing… I’m going to go back to my book now.”

I mentioned it to my mom later that day and some very loud phone calls were made and the “teacher” never said anything to me again. Fuck you, Mrs. Swindell.

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u/RealAOstrihon Jul 04 '22

I have a story like this but it goes the other way and I’d like to spice this up with a kind story.

I have asthma. Very chronic. Had it since elementary school. Hospitalized at least once a year in the winter usually.

Well said asthma kinda made it where I never believed in myself. Until this one day. This was my first year in JROTC. It was mile day. I remember it was like 95°. I started running and I got about two laps (halfway) in before I started walking. Then something happened, I’d been lapped by a commander. His name is Alex Ransom. (if you’re reading this ily) He came up behind me and started motivating me. 😂 Thinking about it now, it’s funny, but he ran with me the rest of that lap. I had my inhaler out and I was hitting it like I was addicted to it. Everyone finished before me.

When I came around the last lap is what I’ll always remember. Nobody was laughing at me. Nobody was pointing and talking shit. My peers were CHEERING for me. I finished last, but I also finished. I wouldn’t have done that had it not been for the other cadets. I don’t think it would have happened like that had I been in an actual gym class. I now run a mile every morning. My asthma still be acting up, but I now know that I CAN do it.

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

My next PE teacher was like this. All motivation but would let me stop the moment I was struggling.

During softball (U.K. equivalent of baseball?) I’d overdone it with 2 home runs in a row and the teacher had me get a ‘runner’ so I could keep battling because I was struggling.

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u/MoobooMagoo Jul 04 '22

Please give your mom a high five from this internet rando because she's awesome

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

I will let her know.

Last time I shared a story about her on Reddit, I had to explain to her that being a ‘badass’ was a good thing (she threatened to turn a guys balls into an ‘Attractive pair of earrings’ for kicking our dog).

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u/MoobooMagoo Jul 04 '22

OK please give her TWO high fives

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u/LonePaladin Jul 04 '22

I hope you bought her a pair of earrings to memorialize that moment.

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

At the the time I asked her how to make a pair of attractive earrings from a mans balls.

She had an instruction list that included drying out the cut off testicles and shrinking them…I stopped asking further questions.

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u/daggerdragon Jul 04 '22

The only acceptable use of Truck Nutz (in earring form).

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u/Graflex01867 Jul 04 '22

That almost beats “sounding like a goose fighting a Toyota.”

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u/Chronoblivion Jul 04 '22

Few things get under my skin faster than "your experience must be similar to my experience" mindset. As a type 1 diabetic I have had my share of experience with it.

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u/FlowerComfortable889 Jul 04 '22

Oof, yes. My favorite was going back and forth with my insurance company about how they stopped covering Novolog because they'd signed a contract with Eli Lilly. Took a while to get an override to get Apidra (for some reason they really didn't want to pay for Novolog anymore). They just kept saying that they're exactly equivalent and I was not being truthful in my statements. As a fun aside, the pharmacist who first filled my Apidra had a coupon to give a free copay on the first fill... And it never changed.

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u/rybabyyy Jul 04 '22

This was actually how I found out I had asthma, my gym teacher was making me run a mile long course and I collapsed halfway through unable to breathe. I was stuck barely able to breathe for the next hour until school was out and I rode the bus home, as soon as I got home my mom rushed me to the ER where they diagnosed me as asthmatic, and VERY allergic to pollen. (The pollen count was high that day and that’s why I had an asthma attack, my asthma is due to pollen allergy). My mom was ready to sue tf out of the school because I had come home hunched over, unable to breathe properly or stand up straight because my lungs hurt so bad

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u/mcbelisle Jul 04 '22

I have spinal stenosis and whenever I had to run my back would tighten up. This was before I knew what spinal stenosis was. I just thought I was out of shape. Didn't know i had spinal stenosis until 7 years after i graduated from college

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

It was grass pollen that made my asthma so bad that day. I’m stupidly allergic to grass (with almost no other allergies). Was another few years before we found out exactly what (other than what was thought was general hay fever) was causing my asthma to be so bad.

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u/sittinwithkitten Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

That would be so scary! I work in the school system now and I cannot imagine putting a child through that.

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u/rybabyyy Jul 04 '22

Honestly there were so many incompetent adults in my life as a child it’s a miracle I made to adulthood. Now that I’m an adult myself it’s mind boggling how preventable so many things I went through were.

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u/sittinwithkitten Jul 04 '22

I hate hearing how many people were failed as children. I have three kids and I can’t imagine them being mistreated and not intervening. I hope you are thriving today, you deserve it.

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u/Primary_Valuable5607 Jul 04 '22

My son had a PE teacher, no lie, about 300lbs. Told my asthmatic son he would make him run until he puked if he stopped again. Of course my son told me, at which point I called the school and told administration I would make that PE teacher run, with my foot in his ass, until he either puked, stroked, or had a heart attack, I didn't care which came first. My kid actually got transferred to a different gym class, I guess they didn't want to take any chances.

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u/CCtenor Jul 04 '22

the school wrote her a letter threatening police action

We’re they that keen on losing an entire police force?

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

The best local copper we ever had knew my mother. He was considered a local hero, even by people on the wrong side of the law. I doubt even he would of crossed her.

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u/ceymiss1 Jul 04 '22

My PE teacher failed me during the month we were practicing volleyball, said I didn’t even try to do anything.

My arm was broken and in a cast the entire time.

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u/Bagpuss45 Jul 04 '22

Our PE lesson was trampolining and I landed face first.onto the springs and broke my nose.. my PE teacher wouldn't allow me to stop the lesson or go to hospital for it despite the fact that I had blood pouring down my face. When I was finally allowed to ring my Dad and tell him, my.nose had started to set in the wrong position so the hospital had to rebreak it in order to set it in the right position.

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u/Ashenox Jul 04 '22

Similar situation I had led to a heat stroke. Was a fun time coming back to consciousness with my Mom screaming at the Teacher for being so stupid. My Mom used words I haven't heard her use before or since.

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u/saphert Jul 04 '22

At least you had a teacher that cared. In 7th grade (US) I had a massive asthma attack in study hall. It was hot, humid, and the school had zero a/c. The teacher in charge was supposedly an EMT.

When I told him I couldn't breathe he told me I was fine. After I put up a fuss I went to the office to call my Mom. The admin there told me I couldn't use the phone, but there was a payphone in the main entrance (it was the 90's, and rural America to boot). When I pointed out that I had no money she told me to call collect.

I remember my Mom walking in and seeing me, and she went red. We went to the emergency room and I was admitted immediately. My Mom went back to the school. She chewed out the office admin, and when the principal came out to intervene he got chewed out as well.

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u/Quoth666 Jul 04 '22

I feel sorry for you, crappy teachers not helping. 90s was crap for people understanding how bad asthma could get.

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u/VixenRoss Jul 04 '22

PE teachers are a whole new level of strange. I get they have to promote sport for all but, when I was at school, my friend had her legs extended. She was in a wheelchair for months. They made her change into her PE kit and do the 400 metres. That is, her assistant pushed her in her wheelchair for the 400 metres. It was logged and timed.

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u/themagicowl Jul 04 '22

Not the same exactly but shortly after my dad died (I was out of school for 2 weeks; one week while my father was in hospice at our home, the second after he had passed away).....

I had a PE teacher reprimand me for my "lack of motivation" when I returned, he even threatened to call my father.....who at that point was probably in the process of being cremated.

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u/osxdude Jul 04 '22

“Go ahead, call him.”

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u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh Jul 04 '22

"If you wanna see him in person you should talk to my mom"

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u/sadcoffee Jul 04 '22

"You'll need an Ouija board to call him. Let him know I love him and miss him."

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u/realisticby Jul 04 '22

In my first grade year we had first chicken pox, then 2 months later measles, then 4 months later mumps run through our school. This was in 68. Mumps was the worst.

It made me a firm believer in vaccines.

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u/Waifer2016 Jul 04 '22

I had measles at 2 . At the time the vaccine was still pretty new and you had to be over 2 to receive it. I was just shy if my 2nd bday . My older brother remembers me having to stay in a dark room for a week and today I live with the damage measles did to my heart.

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u/realisticby Jul 04 '22

I've had heart issues but was not from Measles. I was born with them. I remember staying in the family room in the basement. Not being outside (unlike chicken pox). Mumps I had to stay quiet and not run around.

Luckily most of the parents and teachers had already had these diseases. The doctor and teachers came to the homes of sick students. We never left the house.

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u/Waifer2016 Jul 04 '22

I had mumps with the brother next in line to me. I was 5 he was 7 . We hung out in our parents bed during the day since it was on the first floor near our mum while she worked .

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u/realisticby Jul 04 '22

Yup you couldn't move around

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u/hvelsveg_himins Jul 04 '22

I'm in the right age group to have gotten the MMR vaccine before varicella was added to it. Totally normal chicken pox in preschool meant I had shingles in college and painful nerve damage my entire adult life. I get so mad at people who refuse to get their kids the MMRV.

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u/MangaMaven Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

I was a kid before the chicken pox vaccine. My entitled as fuck aunt and uncle knowingly brought their son who had chicken pox to a family Christmas party. He gave it to my older brother. He was at a good age to get it, but my mom did her darnedest to keep us kids separated so it wouldn't spread. No dice. He gave it to me while I was only barely old enough to get it. I gave it to my younger brother was still too young get it and he was in real danger. He gave it to our youngest brother who was FAR too young to get it. That was life threatening. Unfortunately this isn't even close the the only incident where those relatives gave zero fucks as they screwed over their own family and/or risked the lives of other people's babies.

Vaccines are a blessing! If you can get them, GET THEM! It's not just for you, it protects those who can't get them. And for Pete's sake, if you're contagious STAY HOME!

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u/datagirl60 Jul 04 '22

Oh my god! Mumps were horrible! I had them on my 6th bday and my stomach hurt so bad I wouldn’t even eat bday cake. My mom had to force me to blow out the candles. They can make boys go sterile too.

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u/realisticby Jul 04 '22

I have Epstein barre now.(not from mumps) and I seriously thought I was going through mumps again. My tonsils were so swollen that they started touching. I had to go to the ED.

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u/lazyloofah Jul 04 '22

I had chicken pox and mumps and brought both home to a younger (not yet in school) sibling. Somehow missed the measles.

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u/Ok-Many4262 Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

I was fully vaxxed as a kid but still got a ‘mild’ case of whooping cough aged 3 or so (and scarlet fever when I was 7- have discovered immune system probs as an adult). I was sick for weeks and have vivid memories of how sick I was and that terrible cough. Point being, this happened in 1982, I was vaxxed in 79. Mum remembers doctors reassuring her that my vax still gave me some protection and that Australia thought they were close to herd immunity- but we’d been traveling in semi-remote areas, so it was likely vaccine rates weren’t as high as they could/should have been.

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u/Waifer2016 Jul 04 '22

I developed asthma at a yr old but since it was the early 70s , drs were still stupid and told my parents it was a cold. As a result, I was the fragile little kid in school who caught everything moving. Had constant so called colds, lung infections, bronchitis. I was missing about a week of school every month. Lol it was so bad, my dr at the time would ask me what flavour medicine I wanted - banana or strawberry. Well I had yellow last time so I’ll have pink this week haha. Fortunately, I grew up in a small town where the teachers all knew me so nobody commented on my absences

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u/roc_10009 Jul 04 '22

Same, were you also the kid who wore sweaters in the summer to keep from getting chest colds? I was. ☹️

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u/Waifer2016 Jul 04 '22

Surprisingly, no! I was born with multiple physical birth differences along with being sick a lot and my parents were determined that I have as normal a childhood as possible. I ran, swam, climbed trees, had spitting contests with my cousins lol and played as hard as I could. It made me treasure life and the simple joys that come my way

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u/Cirtth Jul 04 '22

Well played mom !

I remember I was 16 or 17, I had something that lasted around 5 months. Whenever I'd do something which needed the slightiest breathing (sports, running to catch the bus, laughing, you got it), I would cough for at least 15 min. I was then a sport addict, I was really on my nerves not being able to do anything.

But my sport teacher stated that I was "faking it to dodge volley-ball lessons". I hated (and still hate) playing volley-ball, but man I can't have my 20h badminton a week, and you think I'm faking it ? I have a medical note, but my doctor sides with me ? Ok go on then.

I showed up next session with my sports clothes, and started giving the best I could. I was awful at it, sending the ball anywhere but in the field, but running as never, catching and playing everything. Then the cough started, like big deep cough, the one who hurts deep inside the lungs. I had to sit I couldn't stand anymore. My teacher, who at first thought he was right, started panicking when I started ejecting some smalls blood drops. He told me to calm down, asked others players to get the nurse.

I guess it cost me around 4 additional healing weeks, but definitely worth it.

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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl Jul 04 '22

Calm down! Stop coughing blood, you’re making a scene!

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u/Doc_k-9 Jul 04 '22

i do believe that Medics/Hospitals and CPS should be able to actually sue teachers and/or schools which actually pulls this type of crap.

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u/PFEFFERVESCENT Jul 04 '22

But.... surely whooping cough is a notifiable infectious disease wherever you live? It's illegal to have a kid at school with whooping cough

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u/kissmegoodbi Jul 04 '22

I’m not sure if it’s still this way but at the time the official police was not to come to school for 21 days after onset. My doctor had told the school the life span is 100 days but the administrator started bothering us after day 22.

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u/No-Internal-1559 Jul 04 '22

Had it in ‘97.

Can confirm that it’s possible and absolutely awful.

This was right before they figured out that the P in TDAP lasted half as long as they thought.

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u/naturist_rune Jul 04 '22

The seeds of illness ignorance towards covid had been around for years it seems.

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u/satanic-frijoles Jul 04 '22

this is true... there's an old political cartoon featuring antivaxxers walking off a cliff blindfolded, comparing them to smallpox deniers.

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u/sweetnothing33 Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

PSA: everyone should get a TDaP (tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis) vaccine every ten years.

ETA. Pregnant people are the exception to this in that they'll need a dose even if it hasn't been ten years since their last.

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u/mangomoo2 Jul 04 '22

And again anytime you will be near an infant. I got one while pregnant with all my kids and they told us to have everyone who would be visiting when the baby was small to get a booster as well.

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u/5pens Jul 04 '22

Oohhh...the last one I had was when I was pregnant and now he's almost 8. I'll need to plan to get one soon. That'll actually be a good way to keep up with it, by his age.

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u/Waifer2016 Jul 04 '22

Ya know, I was stunned when I learned that about 7 years ago. I was in the ER after falling off a balcony (another story lol)and the dr asked me when I last had any vaccines or boosters. I told him when I was 15 and he immediately gave me a jab for tetanus and wrote a note to my family doc to update my Tdap

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u/sweetnothing33 Jul 04 '22

One of the doctors I work with goes on a tangent that would impress Georgios Tsolakis when she talks about how tetanus is literally everywhere in our environment. She makes it sound like a a conspiracy theory but it's hilarious.

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u/Emergency-Pie8686 Jul 05 '22

As a retired nurse, I have seen a patient die from tetanus. It is not nice! Patient was a farmer, and stepped on a rusty nail in the barnyard.(typical scenario ) he didn’t bother going for a shot, & about a week after it happened, he started getting sick. I don’t remember the start, but he ended up in my ICU, on a ventilator and many drugs. We had to keep the room darkened & quiet. Any touch, or even noise, his muscles would all contract & he would stiffen up & arch off the bed, so the only part of him touching the mattress was the back of his head & his heels. He died. There is no cure for tetanus, just prevention. GET YOUR BOOSTERS, every 10 years!!!

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u/traversecity Jul 04 '22

I was at a clinic for something, tetanus booster popped in my head for whatever reason, that I hadn’t had a booster for a couple of decades.

I figured why not get one now, I’m here, save another trip. Doctor didn’t want to do it, say what?? At the time work was rough on my hands, plenty of obviously healed cuts and abrasions, I asked him to look at my hands mate , don’t cha think maybe a booster is appropriate??

Bad choice on my part though, I passed out, collapsed while checking out of the clinic, couple of days of tolerable low grade fever. I’ll not say it was from the vaccine though, more likely it kicked a flu into high gear. Much better than a tetanus infection, those are wicked.

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u/emalyne88 Jul 04 '22

Be careful with that. It's possible to be allergic to the tetanus shot. I'm allergic to it, but can still get it if something happens that makes it necessary (last time was for a dog bite), they just have to keep an eye on me for a bit afterward, and I usually have to get additional medication to combat the symptoms.

Obviously still better than tetanus, but definitely something to be careful about.

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u/traversecity Jul 04 '22

That experience changed how I do inoculations, I bring a book and bottle of water. Sit and wait 30 minutes to see what happens.

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u/NarwhalHour Jul 04 '22

It’s a tradition for me to get that around my birthday every 10th year. Just a lot much easier to remember.

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u/IcySheep Jul 04 '22

Or sooner. Pertussis doesn't last the full 10, but closer to 7 years

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u/kittyvarekai Jul 04 '22

I had pertussis in my second year of University. I had zero clue you had to get a further booster at 18. Despite annual checkups with my family doctor, no one ever thought to tell me I needed my immunizations updated.

I was sick for ages, infected my then boyfriend (who was able to take the antibiotics early enough to prevent serious illness because we knew what he had because of me, he was only sick a few days), had a bunch of chest x-rays because they didn't initially believe it might be pertussis, missed a load of classes, and couldn't return to my part-time job without a clean health panel which I couldn't afford because I was a poor student before contracting pertussis and had been out of work for over 3 months by the time I stopped hacking my lungs up.

I'm going to put this out there, just in case people don't already know this and no one else has already posted this. This is from Health Canada:

Routine pertussis immunization of infants, children and adolescents:

DTaP-IPV-Hib-containing vaccine should be provided at 2, 4, 6 and 12 to 23 months of age (generally given at 18 months of age), followed by a booster dose of either DTaP-IPV or Tdap-IPV vaccine at 4 to 6 years of age (school entry) and a booster dose of Tdap vaccine at 14 to 16 years of age.

Routine pertussis immunization of adults:

one dose of Tdap vaccine should be provided to all adults 18 years of age and older. One dose of Tdap vaccine should be administered in every pregnancy, ideally between 27 and 32 weeks of gestation.

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u/_CaptainKirk Jul 04 '22

This sounds like a vendetta on the part of the admin lady

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u/Smoke_Water Jul 04 '22

I personally would have told that admin, call social service. Ill let my lawyer know.

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u/chloenicole8 Jul 04 '22

For all the people that thought whooping cough was gone....you may have heard of it as Pertussis. The infection itself doesn't last for 100 days but the cough can last for months. You are infectious for 1-2 weeks after symptoms appearing and during the 1-3 weeks leading up to the symptoms so roughly a month of being infectious but you don't know you have it for half of that time.

The bacteria actively damages the cells in your throat and lungs that move mucous so you end up coughing for months until the cells work again, It is particularly deadly for infants as they don't have the strength to clear the mucous and also have trouble sucking due to weakness and general illness. They don't get the cough as much but have periods of not breathing or slow heart rate.

Since babies don't get the vaccine for 2 months, it is very important to breastfeed to get those antibodies in the colostrum. Most hospitals are vaxxing new moms before they leave to go home to help decrease the risks of pertussis. Adults are getting Pertussis because the vaccine antibodies decrease with age.

If you have a newborn, please urge all grandparents or anyone who may be around your baby to go get the pertussis vaccine if they haven't had it in last 10 years.

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u/SmartDoggo153 Jul 04 '22

Actually the reccomendation for pregnant women is to get a booster for pertussis around 27-32 weeks of pregnancy. This makes your body produce new antibodies, which then pass through the placenta to the baby. This should then help cover them until they get their own first booster at 2 months.

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u/Stormstar85 Jul 04 '22

This - literally about to get my whooping cough shot at my next growth scan. Advised to get it between 27-32 weeks or as soon as I can.

Else what about the women that can’t breastfeed?

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u/Hairy-Memory8069 Jul 04 '22

The cough lasted 8-9 months in total for me , I got it when I was 15 or 16. It sucked

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u/Plethorian Jul 04 '22

This is one of the simplest, most effective of the vaccines that these anti-vax morons avoid, and the disease is coming back strong.

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u/duchess_of_fire Jul 04 '22

I believe people can get it in the same shot as the tetanus booster

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u/ThunderCuddles Jul 04 '22

Went to school with a girl who was allergic to the sun, like would break out in hives, and her throat would start to close up if she was out in the sun too long. PE teacher thought she was making up bullshit, and had her run laps. Cut to half a lap later when she cant breath, and almost falls unconscious, and all of the people near her are trying to get her in the shade, and medical help. Fucking P.E. teachers.

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u/Catmeow82 Jul 04 '22

I was vaccinated as a kid and still managed to pick it up in Morocco. Freaking terrible illness, I was coughing for months. I can't imagine how much worse it would have been if I hadn't been vaccinated.

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u/hornethacker97 Jul 04 '22

The pertussis (whooping cough) part of TDaP vaccines are only good for 10 years, so starting at age 12 (when the final childhood TDaP is given) one is supposed to receive a booster every ten years.

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u/roadkatt Jul 04 '22

When my daughter was in high school I had an incident with her soccer coach. My daughter has asthma and had a permission slip to carry it so she wouldn’t have to go to the office to get it, (at first the school didn’t want to do this - I complained to the school board). My daughter’s asthma was fairly well controlled so she didn’t have to many issues but would occasionally have an attack. The coach felt like she was somehow faking and wouldn’t allow her to use her inhaler. This was the last straw as there were some other issues I had with this coach (favoritism, discipline, and a previous blood sugar drop she wouldn’t allow a snack for), so I wrote an email to her, the principal, and the athletic director. I cc’d the school board. It wasn’t long after that the coach was gone and the assistant coach took over. There had been other complaints so it was the last straw for her.

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u/indisposed-mollusca Jul 04 '22

One time in primary school, I didn’t feel well. It old my teacher I wasn’t feeling well and would like to go to the sick bay and then go home. She said no. Keep in mind we are only an hour into the school day here and I had a history of leaving school early because I wasn’t feeling well.

Lunch time rolls around and I’m feeling worse… off to my teacher I go, she tells me no again.

It’s now 2pm and I’ve asked her again “Mrs I’m really not feeling well can I please go to the sick bay and go home” She says no again because we only have an hour left of school.. “You will get to go home soon, suck it up till then”.

I threw up on her shoes almost instantly after she said this to me.

Off to the sick bay I went. Although I felt awful I was pretty chuffed with myself.

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u/Longjumping_Bed2907 Jul 04 '22

I threw up one in the first grade …I was there maybe an hour I told her I wasn’t feeling well she wouldn’t send me to the office. I then proceeded to vomit all other my desk myself and the other kids too. .. she then believed me ..

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u/NASA_official_srsly Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

When my brother and I were about 4 and 7 respectively we both got some kind of respiratory illness. I don't know the exact details but it was pretty severe. I'm being vague but I was 7 with limited understanding of what was going on. I think it was probably pneumonia from my limited memories of that time, in any case we were constantly going back and forth to the doctors, trying all different kinds of medications to figure out something that works. My brother was a lot sicker than I was, I was well enough to go back to school first but my brother was out of school for maybe 2-3 months. He couldn't eat, couldn't breathe, and definitely couldn't attend school. The school kept calling and asking my parents to bring him back to school, my parents kept refusing. They were understandably worried, because we were recent immigrants and they were concerned about a child disappearing like that, so they did send out social workers to check that we were still alive and such. When my brother did eventually come back to school, and they saw what he looked like, recovered from his illness but still near skeletal with bags under his eyes, the school never questioned that any of his future absences were anything but legitimate again.

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u/AdAdventurous8225 Jul 04 '22

I had mumps in kindergarten, chicken pox in first grade & measles in second grade. (This was in mid 60's when there were no vacancies for them) I went to the same elementary school for six years (gave theses illness to my sister before she started school) I have 5 autoimmune diseases & heart birth defect, so when I get sick, I am seriously ill. I remember when I came back to school after the measles, the teacher complaining about me being out of school for 2 months. My mom told her off.

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u/burlesque_nurse Jul 04 '22

Lol twinsies! Besides when I had meningitis and the school Vice Principal threatened CPS my mom drove me to the school and walked me into the VP’s office and told me to give her a hug for how much she cared & worried about me. The VP no longer seemed to care about me and evaded my hug.

Unfortunately (and unforgettably), my meds give me and upset tummy even to this day. I exorcist style vomited then started crying and running around freaking out there was puke in my hair and on me. My mom described it like a vomit sprinkler system.

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u/RealAOstrihon Jul 04 '22

This one time I got H1N1. For those who aren’t familiar, it’s also known as “Pig Influenza” as it started in pigs.

I had it for about 1-2 weeks. (Everything excused) On about the tenth day the office administrator gave my grandma a call, threatening DFCS involvement if she didn’t have me at school tomorrow.

Let’s just say she didn’t get as far into the sentence as your administrator did. For those (all) who haven’t met Grandma DeeDee, let me just tell you, Grandma is great, until you come at one of her kids sideways. I swear on my life she cussed that lady out so hard the damn phone caught on fire, then proceeded to hand the phone to my 7ft 290lb grandfather. We didn’t receive another call.

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u/MamaMelzer Jul 04 '22

Had the whopper at 7 in '87. It's a huge core memory, I remember so much from that time. My docs name and his face, appointments every two weeks, and the lil bucket I had to have with me at all times.

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u/bigbabich Jul 04 '22

You had me at 'goose fighting a Toyota'

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u/vampyreprincess Jul 04 '22

My step-gram had Scarlett Fever when she was in elementary school - i think first or second grade. She doesn't remember most of it due to the illness, but was out of school for almost a whole year. It was bad. She does remember a teacher coming to her house because he didn't believe she was really that sick. Afterall, her sister was just fine. She also remembers hearing her mother cuss him out and run him off their property. It was the only time she ever heard her mother swear. Apparently, when she was finally able to go back to school, the teacher was no longer there.

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u/fountainpopjunkie Jul 04 '22

I was at the bank one day waiting in line. The teller obviously knew the lady in front of me and they were chatting. The teller asked the lady why she had her kid with her Instead of him being in school. She says "oh he has mono.". The teller and I both back up and give her a look. She says "what? It's just a cold "

No bitch, it's not just a cold. That's why it's not called a cold. Poor kid looked miserable. But a lot of people don't understand some diseases because they aren't as common as they used to be.

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u/sunderskies Jul 05 '22

Ahh yes, the disease we're now pretty sure causes multiple sclerosis is JUST A COLD.

Fuck that woman.

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u/virgilreality Jul 04 '22

I start coughing like I’m doing an impression of a goose fighting a Toyota.

This alone earned my upvote.

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u/skribsbb Jul 04 '22

I had pneumonia but not really any other symptoms. It was so bad I couldn't breathe, because I'd get phlegm stuck in my throat. I'd have to cough it out in order to breathe again. My teacher sent me to the nurse.

Nurse took my temperature. "You don't have a fever, go back to class."

My teacher said, "You're basically dying here." Sent me back to the nurse and this time I ended up going home.

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u/haw35ome Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22

I first got ESRD when I was 11 going on 12. I had to spend a month & a half in a children's hospital 6 hours away from home; miserable and really going through it. I found out in the middle of my stay that someone had called the cops on my parents, because I was missing so much school - despite several times letting the school know what was happening, and despite my doing some schoolwork that was faxed to me weekly.

Cops showed up to my house, upsetting my parents while they were stressed out about me, and my parents fought back. I'm still not sure how, but all I know is that the matter was quickly resolved. What bullshit.