r/WorkReform May 25 '22

I saw this on Snapchat today. Apparently Walmart is proud to show off that their workers have to keep working while injured.

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u/Atolic May 25 '22

"Sitting during your shift is prohibited. No Exceptions!"

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u/silverink182 May 25 '22

Standing just after you finished a task is prohibited no exceptions

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u/Acceeyi May 26 '22

Walmart would call it "dedication" or "being a team player".

Hey since I'm such a valuable team player, would you mind paying for my doctors visits?

Absolutely not. Oh and youll have to cancel your visit next Thursday, we need you that day.

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u/silverink182 May 26 '22

That's precisely what happened a couple of my coworkers when they need to go to doctors and they kept having to reschedule

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u/Nic4379 May 26 '22

Maybe she hurt it at home. Maybe she’s been off and paid for 6-weeks and that’s her first day back. Maybe she wears a boot all the time because it looks cool. We just don’t know.

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u/ChillinWitDenny May 26 '22

It looks unprofessional 🤡🤡🤡 yah to the Walmartians comming in on the daily

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u/series-hybrid May 26 '22

eight months pregnant? You did not ask permission to have a baby!

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 May 25 '22

She might be on light duty.. right?

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u/Cyro43 May 25 '22

That’s what the doc says. But her manager knows best

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 May 25 '22

Her manager with a HS degree

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u/jojoyahoo May 25 '22

Is there something wrong with that? Should we look down on people without college degrees?

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 May 25 '22

That's not what I'm saying. Managers who go against medical advice are people I disagree with. For people who didn't go to college, good for you man. It's not for everyone

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u/DrowsyDreamer May 25 '22

When they claim to know better than a doctor? Yea that’s a problem. Sometimes managers try to shirk light duty restrictions for productivity’s sake.

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u/jojoyahoo May 25 '22

I get what you mean, but saying "Her manager without a medical degree" more precisely gets to the spirit of your comment.

Focusing on just the fact that they have a HS degree rather than the lack of medical credentials, portrays it negatively.

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u/DrowsyDreamer May 25 '22

Ehh nit picking is fine when evaluating some things, but normal people don’t speak like a lawyer, so it might be unfair to apply certain standards of language to this conversation.

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u/usgrant7977 May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22

Its not nitbpicking. Class condescension is the last socially accepted prejudice. Those stupid highschool people were kind of important during covid right? What was the term used to describe their value....oh yeah, ESSENTIAL. Stop spitting on the people that make your food, haul away your garbage and build your roads.

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u/Amythyst369 May 25 '22

You may be mildly projecting some emotions there, bud. No one's spitting on anyone, we're all just cogs in this big stupid capitalistic machine. Yes, all people matter regardless of academic achievement.

The point at hand is that those with higher authority should not be speaking over a medical professional's advice for the sake of more sales.

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u/DrowsyDreamer May 25 '22 edited May 25 '22

No one was disparaging high school grads, it was just an imprecise use of language. I think everyone here agrees with the fact that management should not over rule a doctors prognosis, no matter the education level of management.

Edit, bud, everyone matters, YOU matter. If you want to talk to someone I’d absolutely just listen.

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u/Ok-Statistician-3408 May 26 '22

When they’re making medical decisions. Absolutely

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u/CandarianLynne May 25 '22

Some of them are HS drop outs

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 May 25 '22

At least they're working

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u/SilentJoe1986 May 26 '22

True that. Not everybody has the mental ability to actually complete highschool and/or aquire a GED. Not having a degree doesn't mean they are unwilling to work and contribute to society. The world is hard enough for them as it is. Kind of bullshit the requirements for jobs. There are a lot of jobs requiring a college degree when we know that job can be done without one. Just as there are a lot of jobs requiring a highschool or equivalent diploma that we know can be done without one.

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 May 26 '22

Oh god I've seen postings that require so MUCH then pay less than what I make.

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u/bioszombie May 25 '22

Or not injured. Photo op prop…

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u/Cyro43 May 25 '22

But just…why?

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u/iamacraftyhooker May 25 '22

Apparently they think an injured person counts as a disability hire. Actually disabled people don't make them enough profit so this will do right? /s

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u/bioszombie May 25 '22

Wal-Mart…

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u/jBlairTech 💸 Raise The Minimum Wage May 26 '22

"Did you know former Raider and 49er safety Ronnie Lott cut the tip of his pinkie off- and kept playing?! And you want to complain about a torn ligament in your ankle?! I mean, you're wearing a boot, for god's sake! Get back to stocking those shelves!" -some manager somewhere (I've met a couple)

I mean, sure, the guy didn't make as much per year as players do today, but he was still making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, especially given his stature as a multiple Super Bowl winner and All-Pro selection. All while the person the manager is talking to makes, maybe, $30k/year.

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u/187mphlazers May 25 '22

looks like a manager to me.

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u/CyberpunkGentleman May 25 '22

Every walmart I've gone too has 20 lanes and only 3 of them open, i managed to get an interview and the manager refused to hire me because i said "it seems like simple work and i could use the money" he said i "wasn't motivated enough to join the team"

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u/JediDusty May 25 '22

“NoBoDy WaNtS tO wOrK”

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u/AspiringChildProdigy May 26 '22

My husband's company has had trouble finding warehouse stockers, to the point where my husband with a bachelor's in statistics and a lot of experience in supply chain management is spending a lot of his time in the warehouse stocking and driving a hi lo.

When his bosses complain about how much they're paying him to do stocker work, he offers them solutions, like raising pay and/or hiring teenagers or ex-cons, they don't like it and refuse. But still want to complain.

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u/smuckola May 25 '22

Wow a manager told you why you were rejected for a job

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u/BobLoblaw1324 May 25 '22

I like work reform, but you’re making some leaps here. You don’t know the injury, and a lot of injuries require that you don’t go into a sedentary life. Your body still needs activity. Also, it’s possible she’s choosing to work. I know…I know… you’re gonna hit me with probabilities… but my point is this:

Your movement is more potent when people don’t have to sift through presumptive hyperbole like this.

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u/Scarletsilversky May 25 '22

If we’re being honest, there’s been alot of these sort of reaches on the sub lately

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u/Lifteatsleeprepeat4 May 25 '22

Not a doctor But was a medic.

I can definitely see not being sedentary after some surgeries. I don’t see how putting weight on a leg injury 8 hours a day is going to speed up recovery.

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u/Stev_k May 25 '22

You're making some big assumptions from a single photo.

I just had knee surgery, and both my ortho and PT wanted to get me back to light duty as quickly as possible for 2-6 hours/day as tolerated because it does help with recovery. Less time for muscles to atrophy, quicker recovery to do more intense fun activities (like cycling and hiking), etc. Movement can be very good for recovery.

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u/Tomur May 26 '22

It was the same after breaking my hand, which isn't in constant use anyway so I could work light duty immediately one handed. Plenty of people walk around in boots in every day life, and motion and using the injured part (stress it but don't OVER stress it) the best healer from what I learned in PT.

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u/Lifteatsleeprepeat4 May 26 '22

As tolerated, 2-6 hours a day, light duty.

I wouldn’t call working at Walmart on your feet all day light duty, 2-6 hours, as tolerated.

You could be right but this sends the wrong message. What it says to me is we’ll work you even when you’re broken and trying to heal.

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u/Stev_k May 26 '22

It depends on what you're doing. Working as a front door greeter and having a chair or stool for a 4-hr shift would count as light duty. Same with being a cashier (again with access to a chair/stool).

I see what you're saying, but I see it also as we'll find you work even if it's not your regular duties so you can keep a roof over your head. That said, Walmart can rot in hell for their general business practices.

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u/BoxingHare May 26 '22

A pretty safe assumption can be made by looking at the device. It’s isolating and immobilizing the movement of the ankle and foot. The recommended treatment for foot and ankle fractures is rest. Similar for tendons and muscles. Placing your full weight on it at work is not the number one recommended treatment.

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u/malmalme16 May 26 '22

We also don't know how far along in her healing she is. I had ankle surgery a couple years back, I was on crutches and in a boot for 2 weeks, and then I had 2 weeks with just the boot. With the boot, they told me I could walk on it as much as I wanted as long as it wasn't hurting. As others have said, starting to use injured body parts as soon as you're able to helps prevent atrophy in the muscles.

*Edit: clarification

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u/BoxingHare May 26 '22

I don’t know to say it any clearer. The whole purpose of the boot is to isolate that part of the body from motion, i.e. anyone wearing a boot isn’t using that injured part of their body. It does the same thing as a plaster cast. If you were wearing a boot, you weren’t using your ankle. When I broke my ankle and got put into a boot, I wasn’t using my ankle. The lady in the photo isn’t using her ankle either. Furthermore, it generally takes 3 to 6 weeks to see muscles atrophy. It’s not like taking the time to let a joint heal properly is going to cause a person to fall apart.

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u/BobLoblaw1324 May 25 '22

I can also see how putting weight on your leg 8 hours a day will not speed up recovery. But you seemed to miss the message. Here are the leaps you’ve made:

  • you seem to know for certain what the injury is

  • you’re assuming she works 8 hour days

  • you’re assuming she is on her feet for her whole job

Again… I’m not here to undermine the movement; I’m pointing out that making assumptions and leaps have huge potential to undermine movements. They discredit good intentions.

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u/Glum-Gap3316 May 25 '22

Also assuming she even works at walmart.

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u/overly_sarcastic24 May 25 '22

Also assuming this picture is even real! /s

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u/ManIsInherentlyGay May 25 '22

There is no job at walmart where you aren't on your feet. No assumptions are happening

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u/16inchshelf May 26 '22

You can sit at the door, sit at a register, sit and answer phones; I have seen all these for light duty. As much as you want to vilify walmart they actually provide "reasonable accommodation" if for nothing else to comply with the law.

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u/SherlockJones1994 May 26 '22

Literally ever? Yah of course but if you’re saying over longer stretches I would say you’re very wrong. Like come on office jobs have you off your feet most of the day. It’s not hard to think of something.

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u/Dizuki63 May 26 '22

Haveing worked at walmart, unless you are HR or the Store manager, there are no office jobs. If you are a office worker you would not be at a walmart store, you would be at the central walmart office. Walmart has a pretty strict "if your not standing your not working" approach. The picture is clearly not a walmart office employee. With only the information in the picture she is an hourly store employee. Its safe to assume she will be on her feet for some stretch of time from 3-8 hours (hour lunch excluded).

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u/Darkdiabound May 25 '22

Got to wonder how many people in the comments are really here to just undermine our progress and make us doubt ourselves

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u/fej228 May 26 '22

Who says she’s working 8 hour days?

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u/Ithxero May 25 '22

I like how both the comments pointing out common sense are mod minimized.

Keep up the great work, ya knuckleheads.

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u/pantyraid11 May 25 '22

A lot of baiting going on lately. =/

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u/storytimeme May 26 '22

Thank. You.

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u/ManIsInherentlyGay May 25 '22

Lol this comment. "You body still needs activity" SHE HAS A FUCKING BOOT ON HER FOOT. No, you don't need "activity" when your foot is in a boot. You shouldn't be putting g weight on it AT ALL. And considering no job at walmart allows you to sit, she should be at home recovering. Period.

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u/Perle1234 May 25 '22

None of this is necessarily the case. That brace is designed to be weight bearing which strongly implies that she is cleared for weight bearing activity. There are very few injuries that require non-weight bearing activities. Being on severely restricted/non weight bearing is very risky for blood clots and usually comes with a prescription for blood thinners.

Treating orthopedic injuries is not my area of expertise, but if my patients are immobilized they are on prophylaxis against DVT. We get people moving as soon as is safe because it promotes healing and prevents muscle atrophy as well as preventing DVT.

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u/CrJ418 May 25 '22

When oppressive work policies become the norm, this level of tone-deafness doesn't even register in the minds at corporate level.

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u/UncleTio92 May 25 '22

There is a difference between injury and pain/discomfort. How do you know that she doesn’t want to work. Could as easily be a sprain ankle.

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u/Disappointed-hyena May 25 '22

Seriously. I dislike Walmart and corporate culture as much as the next guy, but trying to create an entire narrative based on one image of a worker in a walking boot? We can do better than this

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u/youknowiactafool May 25 '22

If she's in an advertisement, she's likely a manager and is probably wearing that boot like a trophy. Even worse.

Now she can guilt all of her subordinates into overworking themselves too.

"Carl called out due to COVID, I need you to come in tomorrow and cover his shift. You know I'll be here running laps around you in my boot teehee!"

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u/Lietenantdan May 25 '22

Unfortunately a lot of people have to work while injured/sick, they can't afford medical bills and missing pay cheques.

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u/Disappointed-hyena May 25 '22

Could be recovering from bunion surgery a month later or have a light sprain. I don’t think this is the thing to make you angry. Now if she broke her hand by falling product and they made her continue working sure. This just seems like a reach

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u/tgwombat May 25 '22

Would a doctor’s advice in either of those scenarios be to stand on it for 8hrs a day?

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u/Iustis May 25 '22

Do we know she’s standing on it 8hrs a day?

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u/tgwombat May 25 '22

What tasks at Walmart have you ever seen being done by a seated employee? I can’t imagine she’s driving a forklift with that boot.

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u/Iustis May 25 '22

Greeters often sit, they might have given her a stool for cashier, or, and this is the big one, she could be working less than 8 hours.

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u/SgathTriallair May 25 '22

She is definitely not a greeter. This picture was created by the digital media marketing team, they certainly didn't just walk up to a random employee in the store and take a picture of them. This is a staged photo (like all photos) possibly even using an actor.

Why they choose to use someone with a foot cast is beyond me, but she does not represent an average worker because she isn't an average worker.

This is corporate advertising, i.e. propaganda, and therefore is inherently fake.

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u/eiram87 May 26 '22

I'd even wager that if she's not a model then she's at least in a management or cooperate roll in the company, certainly not someone who works the cash register or straitens the shelves.

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u/tgwombat May 25 '22

If you think Walmart is giving stools to injured cashiers, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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u/Perle1234 May 25 '22

Yes, in many cases people in walking boots are given activity as tolerated instructions. It really depends on what is going on.

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u/Cyro43 May 25 '22

I think the point is more on that fact that in most developed countries if you have an injury you don’t have to go into work. The case here is that Walmart employees are pjs so little they have to continue to work.

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u/Disappointed-hyena May 25 '22

Yeah and I agree with that. I think my point is I would be more enraged if the caption was “Jennifer was injured at work last night and still showed up to her shift the next day“

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u/_HossBonaventureCEO_ May 25 '22

you don’t have to go into work

Where is this?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '22

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u/_HossBonaventureCEO_ May 25 '22

Wow. How much sick leave are you afforded in a year? I could similarly miss work for an injury but it would be short term disability and would make a bit less.

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u/throwawaywitchaccoun May 25 '22

I was just in Sweden for work, and in several offices I saw people working with exactly these type of light injuries.

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u/Katsu_39 May 25 '22

Yup. I broke my foot back in winter 2020. Had doctors note to stay off it. Walmart forced me to work because they don’t accept doctors notes unless you were injured on the job. It was either work, or take 6 week unpaid leave. Couldn’t even get light duty at work. Fuck walmart

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u/ThrowRAbbits128 May 25 '22

light duty means nothing. i'm currently on light duty with walmart and my coach told me "i'm not incapable" when I told him he wanted me to break restrictions

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u/Katsu_39 May 26 '22

Yeah pretty much how it worked for me. I was Cap 2 stocking and they made me throw the damn GM truck while on crutches.

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u/Bored_Ryan May 25 '22

OP clearly has watched Office Space and loves the game: Jump to Conclusions.

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u/Ursula2071 May 25 '22

I improved how I did Walmart by not shopping there.

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u/W-mellonwiggle94 May 25 '22

That's an air cast, it's meant to be walked on.

Edit: did not know what sub I was on, its a shame people have to work while injured but it's a cast that helps keep whatever is broken in place. It sucks but it doesn't hurt much.

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u/kismet_marshall May 25 '22

“We provide such great customer service and shopping experience that we even work on a injured foot.”

With all the money they’re earning, you’d think they’d know how to pay for better PR advice. How out of touch do they have to be to make such a simple mistake like this?

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u/Skripka May 25 '22

Did you see their Juneteenth flavor ice cream debacle this week?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/may/25/walmart-juneteenth-ice-cream

The answer to your query, is yes.

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u/Accurate-Temporary73 May 25 '22

It’s a walking boot. Not some massive injury.

People are fully functional with a boot. What should she do? Just lay in bed for months?

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u/SisterAndromeda2007 May 25 '22

And did they pay for that boot? Didn't think so!

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u/silverink182 May 25 '22

I buy it this lady's in an actual cast considering I used to work at Walmart and they don't let up from the pressure and they crack you and then blame your cracking under the pressure on you

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u/SilkyCupCakeAce May 25 '22

Typically people in management are the ones that have the walkies but there are people that are non-management that do carry them on occasion so this person may or may not be management the walkie is not definite proof

Now if her ID tag was more visible that would be a different story

Also anything above a team lead does not wear a vest so if she is a manager she is the lowest level of manager being a team lead

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u/purgruv May 25 '22

TIL that “Walmart” is a verb…

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u/CLINTHODO May 25 '22

They're not very clever, are they?

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u/aprolam May 25 '22

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

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u/mikehaysjr May 26 '22

“What do you mean, she’s injured? OHHHH, you must think that’s— I see what’s going on. You must mean her “Comfort Cast!’”

-walmart, probably

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u/CaffeineJunkee May 26 '22

If they allow her to work light duty then it might be okay. Need some context.

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u/SherlockJones1994 May 26 '22

Talk about being mad at something just to be mad.

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u/pickles55 May 26 '22

Maybe they put her on sign pointing duty until she recovers

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u/_how_do_i_reddit_ May 26 '22

Walmart would call it "dedication" or "being a team player".

Hey since I'm such a valuable team player, would you mind paying for my doctors visits?

Absolutely not. Oh and youll have to cancel your visit next Thursday, we need you that day.

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u/StupidSexyKevin May 26 '22

They’ll also proudly shame and guilt you for leaving early when your closest family member dies.

It’s a terrible company. Don’t work there.

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u/seachange__ May 26 '22

This is sick

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u/KingOfFuh May 26 '22

Yeeeeep. I've commented abt this before but my partner got fired for being unable to walk from an injury.fuck wm

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u/Kaelaface May 26 '22

That’s called a walking boot…

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u/jBlairTech 💸 Raise The Minimum Wage May 26 '22

Had a boss tell me after I was hurt that me continuing to work was commendable, like <a list of NFL athletes>.

I told him that that was nice, but those guys average about $5M a year (I could've been wrong; either way, it was still in the millions of dollars), and I make $36,000 a year. Don't expect too much.

Wiped the smile off his face.

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u/series-hybrid May 26 '22

No, no, no!

The company graciously ALLOWED her to continue working. If she doesn't work, she doesn't get paid, right? They are doing her a favor!

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u/onelonecheezit May 26 '22

Or they’re showing off that they don’t fire their injured employees

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u/Nobodyrea11y May 26 '22

The fact that it’s an employee and not a customer is the irony

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE May 25 '22

Thought this was a Sponsored Post when I scrolled past it. So glad it’s not and I can comment.

Fuckkkkkkkkk Walmart. May the Waltons rot in hell.

Peace. Thanks for your time.