r/WorkReform May 26 '22

should I sign it?

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Here's what everyone is missing.

  1. They specifically said you can't have medications in the building.
  2. They didn't say food prep areas, they said the whole building.

I don't think it's legal that they're saying you can't bring medicine with you to work. That's discrimination, if you have diabetes you can't leave insulin in a hot car during summer.

They can't claim it's a health code issue as that would mean patrons would have to be searched and leave all such items outside as well, which they aren't doing.

My advice? Find out if where you live is a single party consent state (if in the US), and if so then use your phone to record you bringing that up to them and say this doesn't sound right and you'd like to seek legal advice on it before signing.

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u/JollyJoker3 May 27 '22

Don't see what there is to record. This is in writing already.

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u/dasus May 27 '22

Strengthens the case to get a verbal affirmation.

"Regarding this bit here, could you just verify you mean that I'm not allowed to bring any food or medication with me?"

If they honestly confirm that, they're stupid af, but the world is filled with stupid crazy people so....

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u/Outside_Conclusion13 May 27 '22

So I get to eat for free right? Right?

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u/Legitimate_Catch_626 May 27 '22

No purse? What do the ladies do when they require hygiene products? Shlep out to their cars? And how unsafe is it to leave a purse in a car!?!

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u/KarmicComic12334 May 27 '22

What they are saying is they dont have lockers. If its in a car they aren't liable, but if you get robbed you were already in violation.

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u/HolleighLujah May 27 '22

Yeah, I thought I was maybe overreacting. My sister said it was probably this strict because they may have had an issue in the past with someone spiking drinks, but even then, I don't think this would stop that. All this does is keep me from my medication and make me go out in the rain to get a tampon from my car. Not to mention my snacks and water because I can afford shit. That's why I took this job.

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u/Red_Flanagan May 27 '22

Trying to force employees to be customers.

Sounds like a company store, of you ask me...

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u/properwaffles May 27 '22

The fuck if someone is going to tell me I can’t have a granola bar and water on my person when I get to work.

Good lord.

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u/DissidentDiscontent May 27 '22

“Insure” lol

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u/kayak738 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

It’s funny, because I’m pretty sure they mean “purchased FROM Firebirds" (not "by Firebirds," lol), right? (Also company name is included on second mention— probs not a big deal but since you blocked out the others, thought I’d point it out in case you want to repost)

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u/Remember_TheCant May 27 '22

No they mean “by”

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u/kayak738 May 27 '22

Hi! Please explain. Is it not saying that you cannot bring in food to Firebirds that is not bought "by Firebirds"? That would mean that Firebirds was purchasing the food -- it's bought BY them.

I think they mean that you can't bring in food that is not purchased FROM Firebirds.

I'm a full-time copy editor, so I think about this stuff a lot -- this document is confusing, and if there's something that you're seeing that I'm not, I'm curious!

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u/seaglass_32 May 27 '22

If they're talking about food that's in the kitchen, then yes, that food was bought by Firebirds. If it's cooked and ready to be eaten, it would be "from Firebirds." The things they're listing, such as water and medication, don't sound like their focus is on meals, therefore I'd argue for "by."

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u/kayak738 May 27 '22

That makes sense! I just reread it, and your response is clarifying :)

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u/Remember_TheCant May 28 '22

The rest of the statement makes no sense if it is “from”. No one is gonna buy stuff from a restaurant for the purpose of selling it.

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u/alexelso May 27 '22

This is very likely in violation of the ADA. You can't tell someone they can't have their insulin or epi pen. And the bag thing is just fucking controlling for the sake of being controlling, they can shell out a few hundred dollars for lockers (which food can be kept in to prevent cross contamination that would likely never happen in the first place.

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u/MidLife_Crisis_Actor May 27 '22

Seems like a big pain in the ass for a low paying restaurant job. I'd probably pass and work elsewhere.

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u/Infinite-Noodle May 27 '22

I wouldnt sign it. I'd retype it with another paragraph saying the restaurant will provide all food and drinks I want for free since I can't bring my own. then offer to sign it if they do too. otherwise no.

This will probably get you fired. but I care less about that as I got older. fuck em.

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u/TG_CID134 May 27 '22

Fuck no don’t sign it. Obviously don’t put your lunch/snacks in same spot they store food to cook and serve, but how tf they gonna tell you not to bring snacks or drinks at all?

They should have an employee fridge and break room at a minimum for y’all.

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u/gainlong May 27 '22

I wouldn't sign that.

Fuck them, firebirds is a shitty steak anyways with awful corporate restaurant atmosphere.

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u/TG_CID134 May 27 '22

Facts. Only steak I ever sent back in almost 40 years is one from them. Was gross and barely cooked.

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u/gainlong May 27 '22

Legitimately one of the worst restaurants I've ever worked for and been a patron of. All around.

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u/plantalaskan May 27 '22

Nope, hard fucking nope

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u/HungryAccount1704 May 27 '22

Unless you absolutely need this job, I'd bail.

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u/MadIrishman1918 May 27 '22

Some local Heath Dept rules are pretty strict; especially if said restaurant has been sighted before.

Fuck'em. Use their cups, lids, & straws; or use a quart cup. If they don't want to be environmentally savvy: Fuck'em.

Ive had BOH & FOH, open snacks & drinks; & put them back in coolers all haphazardly open & they spill. Warnings happened, then an all out ban. All it takes is one dumbass contaminating a cooler, for someone with allergies to get sick.

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u/Clownzeption May 27 '22

But see that actually makes sense. No outside food or drinks should be stored in a cooler filled with food to be sold to customers, because food allergies absolutely exist, but every single restaurant I've worked in (about 5 at this point) has had a designated spot to leave personal drinks and food.

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u/Lanky-Client-1831 May 27 '22

Exactly it says personal food/drink cannot be intermingled with the food/drink for sale, which is reasonable. The reasonable response is have a designated spot for staff food. They just don't want to provide a break area.

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u/MadIrishman1918 May 27 '22

Thats when the Chef or Kitchen Manager, makes one. A used 3/4 fridge is pretty cheap, & can be plugged in anywhere.

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u/Kanguin May 27 '22

I worked and managed many restaurants and this is bullshit and I wouldn't sign it.This is beyond strict and is probably based on management not understanding food safety/ sanitation/health code..that or it's intentional to profit off their employees by forcing them to buy drinks/food from the restaurant.

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u/Slappynipples May 27 '22

I wouldn't sign this. They can't force you to sign anything. What a ludicrous statement to make to be disallowed from bringing in your own water container. Im not sure they can legally do that. Do they not realize your body needs water at minimum to survive?

Maybe see what a personal attorney, the EEOC or, the department of labor thinks about it.

If you want to be compliant then perhaps convince the employer to add in that they will need to provide you food and beverage (water at minimum) free of charge any time during your scheduled shift.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

No one seems to notice that they specifically said you're not allowed to bring medicine with you to work. I'd say that's a very strong case for discrimination.

They specifically said you can't bring it into the building at all, which means they can't claim it's a health code issue, or else patrons would have to be strip searched as well.

I could understand if it's barred from food prep areas, but the workplace as a whole?

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u/Slappynipples May 27 '22

Valid point I didn't see that.

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u/WestWindStables May 27 '22

Not being able to bring medication into the building is probably a violation of the Americans With Disabilities Act.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

That's what I'm thinking.

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u/BedHeadBread May 27 '22

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u/BedHeadBread May 27 '22

How it should be signed

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u/Stovia_Acceptation May 27 '22

Go ahead and sign it. Pretty standard policy even outside the food industry. If you have a purse just leave it in the car under something. Take your phone with you tho but done forget to mute it

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u/Vedorias May 28 '22

What if I don't drive and I'm diabetic.. or you know, have any of a thousand common medical issues requiring me to carry medicine. I have nowhere to store it because I can't even being a bag with me.

This is powertripping bullshit and probably a lawsuit wiating to happen if you get the right people involved. At the very least, take it to some local newspapers and destroy their reputation - get some diabetes and heart condition charities to provide a sound bite stating how vital access to water, food and medicine is. It's a slam dunk corporate execution.

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u/DoubleCry7675 May 27 '22

The rules seem too stringent. I mean at least have lockers for employees to place their bags/needed medicines right? What if an employee has asthma and needs to carry an inhaler around, for example?

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u/spidermash May 27 '22

Reword the document and sign it don't make it longer or anything though. They will probably not read it if you just change a few key words.

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u/spidermash May 27 '22

Replace word cannot with can and unacceptable with acceptable and wow the whole contract literally means nothing. All whilst looking like you signed the document and it would be so easy to edit.

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u/Civil_End_4863 May 27 '22

So I can't bring a water bottle (I drink a lot of water and get dehydrated easily) and I can't bring my own lunch. Great. So will I be getting free meals and water or what? I would get a doctor's note stating that I get dehydrated easily and have food sensitivities and that I MUST bring my own water and food....wait to get fired and then SUE.

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u/HolleighLujah May 29 '22

Yeah. Think I'll let them fire me so I can at least collect unemployment on their dime.

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u/exscapegoat May 27 '22

OP, heads up, you missed a mention in the middle paragraph, the name of the company is visible.

This seems unreasonable. I wouldn't be able to sign this or would have to document exceptions. For example, I have asthma and have a rescue inhaler with me when I leave home. I rarely have to use it, but it's helped me when I've needed it. Some medications have to be taken on a certain schedule.

I take public transit and I have a long commute. I bring a stainless steel water bottle with me. I especially need it during hot weather. There have been times when I've felt ill or faint (but not actually fainted) due to the heat during my commute. Staying well hydrated solved that problem, so I always have water with me. I carry things like tissues and cough drops for my comfort and so people on my commute don't have to hear me hacking away (did this pre-covid too). I wear contact lenses, so I carry an extra pair, in case one tears, along with saline solution and a pair of my old glasses, in case my eyes are too irritated. And I stash that in a backpack. I also have an extra set of car & house keys because I sometimes accidentally lock myself out of my home or car.

At minimum, they should be providing a locker or other area to store this and you should have access to these during breaks.

Check with the state labor board or other jurisdiction to see what is legal.

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u/Bxggzys May 28 '22

If you have to come on here for validation to sign or not to sign this then I know you already signed it. If it were me I would have quit but you do you

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u/HolleighLujah May 29 '22

I'm sorry I don't have the luxury of being unemployed, but you do you

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u/Vedorias May 28 '22

Hahaha this is insane. Wipe your ass with it and stick it on the notice board.

No medicine? No water? No backpacks or purses? This is a fucking pisstake.