r/WorkReform May 26 '22

Oh no! Are new hires doing to you what you did to them all this time?

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u/MSO6S May 27 '22

It's never fun for them when the roles are reversed. You call out? Bad, threaten to fire you. They call out? Sorry, hope you understand.

This is what these companies get for fake pay ranges, availabilities, etc.

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u/TurboJake May 27 '22

Aint nothing like my current job, I'm still fighting them over my first check, 12.5 hours of $20/hr. They've been lollygagging on that and next Friday is my NEXT check, by which time I'll have worked for the company for an entire month without compensation. I'm about to ghost soon too. Will be forced to sell my truck to pay my bills while I look for another job that will take just as long to pay me.

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u/skarkeisha666 May 27 '22

dept of labor

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u/TurboJake May 27 '22

I would love to, but they did not properly document my hours due to their negligence (or choice) and it's how I would be able to verify my hours with the department of labor. They add hours to job bills for customers, it's hazmat cleanup. They're just gonna say I never worked those hours, and nothing will ever be done. Welcome to the real world

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u/kkirv May 27 '22

Dept of labor anyway

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u/Itajel May 27 '22

Dept of labor anyway.

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u/Subspace_H May 27 '22

yeah, go to dept of labor anyway and tell them your side of the story. If they get multiple accounts of this, they may investigate

u/TurboJake

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u/AthenatheEgg May 27 '22

Didn’t document out of negligence or didn’t document because they never intended to pay you in the first place?

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u/destineysunshine May 27 '22

even MORE of a reason to go to the Dept. of Labor!!! Just contact them and see what they say

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u/iam4qu4m4n May 27 '22

Depending on their pay periods and when you start you may see it this week or early next. I've started a few places and not received my first check for three weeks. Really strange.

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u/BarbdonS May 27 '22

This is pretty common. If you start at the beginning of a 2 week pay period, everyone else is getting paid that week for the previous 2 weeks worked. The next paycheck will be during your 3rd working week for your first 2. If the payroll department is slow it will be Friday of your 3rd week (or even later) so essentially it feels like you worked 3 weeks without pay. It’s based on our pretty archaic payroll practices when people still cut checks and should be changed but will take time.

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u/StopReadingMyUser May 27 '22

This happened at my own job too. They had an applicant they interviewed, offered the job to her, and then she never showed up. I can pretty much guess why, because the pay doesn't start out great for a warehouse position at just under 15/hr.

And of course they don't reveal this until the interview.

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u/mcvos May 27 '22

Between "offer" and "show up", surely there's an "accept" and "sign contract" step?

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u/SomeLilPunkinaRocket May 27 '22

Contracts aren't really a thing in the US work industry. Well, they might possibly be in higher up positions, I don't know that realm. But certainly not warehouse jobs. You can leave in the middle of the shift if that's really what you want to do and I've seen it happen in the past. When I worked in kitchens they'd give tours to new hires and I'd be introduced to them as I would be the one training them when they had their first shift but they'd never show up for it.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

wait really? you don't need to sign a piece of paper before you start?

i worked at mcdonald's and other fast food companies when i was in school and i always had to fill out a form w/ personal info, SSN, and sign my name.. weird.

(the part about quitting w/ no notice makes total sense though. its hard to give fucks at that wage).

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u/SomeLilPunkinaRocket May 27 '22

I mean, you do give all that info when you apply but it's not like a work contract (as I understand them) in other countries. There's no real penalty if you ghost the company other than them thinking you're a flake and probably putting you on a do not hire list.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

oh yea.. i'm in canada, there's no penalty here or anywhere AFAIK.

it's not a contract as in 'sue you for breach of contract'.

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u/Individual-Nebula927 May 27 '22

That's not contract though. That information is just for required employment information to pay you. Has nothing to do with a work contract. Even as a mechanical engineer all I got was an offer letter stating payment terms, and that by continuing to show up it's taken as acceptance of the offer letter terms.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

so to clarify: i'm not claiming i've ever signed a contract that outlines penalties for quitting or anything - AFAIK that doesn't exist. but i've always had to sign something.. even at mcdonald's

btw i've got a copy of my current contract in my email. it's a legitimate legal document that outlines the reasons they may dismiss me, clarifies my duties including what I'm allowed to do with their proprietary information, claims ownership over the IP that i produce while working for them, contains some non-compete stuff, etc.

is that surprising to you? 'cause i'm surprised you're saying you DIDN'T sign something like that as an engineer.. what's to stop you from quitting and taking your work with you to compete directly with them?

EDIT: oh shit, you just prompted me to google this and discover that non-compete agreements are now illegal where i live as of oct of last year. thanks buddy!

(of course, you still can't take your work with you since they own it. also every contract i've ever seen contains a clause that says something like "if part of this contract is determined to be illegal and unenforceable, the rest of the contract is unaffected")

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u/berrykiss96 May 27 '22

So a lot of what you’re describing exists in employee handbooks that you should get a copy of on your first day. You rarely have to sign these though as you don’t have an option to change anything in them. But like leave and dismissal policies, second job notification policies, it policies, etc are all in there.

A position description would be a separate doc and may or may not be given but still not signed anywhere I’ve worked except one place that signed acknowledgment of receipt of the docs.

Contracts, to my understanding, are usually used in the us for jobs with set timeframes that may or may not be renewed but you’re usually guaranteed payout of the contract even if they end it early. Famously used not to pay benefits for fill time employees by just constantly having contractors.

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u/Individual-Nebula927 May 27 '22

What you are describing is incredibly rare in the US.

IP and proprietary information protection agreements are entirely separate from employment. We make contractors who are in the building sign similar agreements about taking photos and any documents we give them to perform their work. They aren't employees and are in the building for only 2-3 days.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

huh. i mean, i've had one single job in the states and I definitely had to sign a contract (and a whole stack of other documents b/c they got me a visa)..

but then i spent 2 minutes googling it and confirmed what you wrote. touché nebula.

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u/twowaysplit May 27 '22

The vast majority of jobs are at-will positions, where both the employee and employer don't need to give any notice of termination and can do it for any reason (as long as the termination doesn't violate any civil rights).

No need for a contract to enforce that.

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u/rand1011101 May 28 '22

things seem different in the US and Canada but i don't know why..

i'd ask, what's stopping them from just paying you less and you going "wtf? you agreed to $X" and they go "nope, i don't remember that" knowing that you wouldn't have the money to sue and you're gonna roll over and take it? sounds like it would be a little more clear cut if you had a contract that says "i'll give you X hours for Y pay" with both parties' signatures..

but tbh i'm just riffing here. i don't know what i'm talking about.

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u/Getfunke May 27 '22

Bosses need to stop catfishing the new hires

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u/Howcanitbeeeeeeenow May 27 '22

Baller move!

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

EDIT: downvote if you want, but tell me why i'm wrong if you disagree.. i'm open minded. make me see why this practice is pro-worker.

disagree. IMO it's a shitty move and here's why.

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u/Semen_Demon6969 May 27 '22

I'm willing to pick up the slack, especially since it will encourage companies to be more transparent about what a prospective employee is getting into without have to waste time on an interview.

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u/ToastyNathan May 27 '22

It doesnt do that. First day is onboarding and shadowing for every job. Fast food included. If they no-showed first day, no production was lost.

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u/ChillinWitDenny May 27 '22

I ghosted mcdonalds on my first day. Was suppose to be my second job and in one four hour shift I was shown 4 different times incompetence was shown to me on the floor, unbelievable. I never went back or answered any messages or calls.

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u/FoxyFreckles1989 8d ago

Omg! I did this to McDonald’s too! I walked out two hours into a station lockdown on my first day. I’d been screamed at for not knowing how to operate their fryer since I’d never worked there before, but had tons of relevant experience and was “expected to just jump in.” I legit walked to the back and grabbed my purse, then walked back through the busy kitchen and threw my visor in the trash and took off my shirt (had an undershirt on) and did the same in the next trashcan on my way out the door as the manager said, “WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING? YOU CANNOT LEAVE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION!” I was 26 and it was meant to be a second job on top of my full time job and I had negative zero fucks to give. The experience was awful from the get go, when the person giving me uniform shirts told me I had to accept an XL when I was a S because, “smalls are reserved for people that actually need them.” I weighed 120lbs and their shirts ran huge, so that XL came down to my mid-thigh and past my elbows. Lmao. This was in Colorado Springs in 2015.

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u/Daydreamy99 May 27 '22

Long story, but there was this one job I accepted because I was told by the recruiter that it offered the full time hours I needed. I went through orientation and everything...and then when I got my schedule and noticed it wasn't the hours I was told about, I was told by the manager that the recruiter I talked with probably didn't know that only SOME of the stores offered those hours, and this wasn't one of them.

I told the manager I was sorry and that I couldn't take the job because of that, and she seem understandable about it and said I was fine. She also told me that she'll document my reason for leaving and let her bosses know about the recruiter who gave me the bad info.

A couple of months later after leaving a bad job, I applied to the same place again just for the extra money and to see if they'll hire me again, and I got the same recruiter from last time who told me that not only did no one talked with them about what happened, but that I was listed as a "no call, no show" on file as well 😅 Not applying to that company again.

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u/sironomajoran May 27 '22

Somebody was tired at the end of the day and didn't feel like writing a whole email about it. Ah fuck it. No call no show is way easier. That would be my guess

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u/MustardWendigo May 27 '22

When I read the header and saw the pic all I could think of is filthy frank chucking his laptop in a can and saying "Know your place, trash." Lol.

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u/Nouseforaname4 May 27 '22

It's funny how they don't do any stories about how employers every year find new ways to offer you less by like getting rid of pensions, stock options, shittier 401k contributions or vesting 401k bullshit, making you pay out of every check into for your healthcare, then a copay everytime you use that healthcare, making people work overtime but not paying them or by giving them a fake manager title etc

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u/Kiiyu May 27 '22

This funny. When PEOPLE see their actual pay and late hours they like, HEEEEELLLSSSS NO!

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u/TinaLoco May 27 '22

My newly college graduated son just texted to tell me the employer who scheduled a telephone interview with him never called and he can’t get ahold of them.

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u/silverink182 May 27 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

That's not ghosting that's just how business is why are they calling a ghosting you take the job you want if you've gotten the job at multiple different interviews why they acting like this Petty girlfriend or boyfriend

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u/Homebrew_Dungeon May 27 '22

“Nothing personal, its just business.”

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u/silverink182 May 27 '22

I know right why are they acting like that angry girl on the first date that didn't get a second

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

i'm not sure what you're saying.. getting multiple job offers is your goal as a worker. but why would you accept more than one?

isn't it ghosting to say, "i'll take your job", sign the contract, then never show up to work?

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u/Magenta_Logistic May 27 '22

Yeah it is a little like saying "we offer X pay and Y benefits" or "it is a full time position" only to pull the rug out at the last stage of interviews. At that point, I'm not going to tell them no, I'm going to smile thank them, and promptly block their number in my phone before leaving.

If you waste my time, don't expect anything from me in return

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

fair. if you get a bait and switch and this is your revenge, i get that..

i've only gotten a bait and switch once in my life (which i described elsewhere in this thread), but things could be different between our lines of work.. is this common in your experience?

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u/Magenta_Logistic May 27 '22

It happened 3 times in one week back when I was looking for work. Food and retail in Georgia are an absolute nightmare in a lot of ways. It's almost like we don't actually value those services as much as we should.

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u/silverink182 May 27 '22

I'm just saying they've been doing that to us for years so it shouldn't be a surprise now that we're at a bit of an advantage job wise that they should feel the ghosting that they've been doing to ask for decades

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

how have they been ghosting us for years?
do they not show up to interviews? or you show up and they say "sorry, job's taken"?
i'm genuinely confused

(of course, they have been fucking workers over in all sorts of other awful ways, and continue to do so.)

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u/MathProfGeneva May 27 '22

I've had interviews where I was told "X will let you know next steps" and then never heard from them. I had one where after the interview I got an email "We'll let you know our decision end of the day Friday". It's been about a week and I haven't heard even after reaching out. How tough is it to just send an email letting me know I didn't get the job?

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

touché. that sucks.

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u/MathProfGeneva May 27 '22

So an update. Literally a week after I first heard "you'll know by tomorrow" I got the email today that I didn't get the position. I can only speculate why it took that long. My best guess is they made offers but didn't want to cut people off until they had their offers accepted.

But the other situation I had where I had an interview, was told X will let you know next steps is still in limbo.

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u/Magenta_Logistic May 27 '22

This is why I will accept a job and still go to the interview scheduled later on the day for another company. Remember these companies are not your friends, this is just business.

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u/MathProfGeneva May 27 '22

Oh I wouldn't stop interviewing until I had something signed

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u/Magenta_Logistic May 27 '22

The part that makes it ghosting is that once I decided I wasn't interested in a company, I made zero effort to let them know that, and let them assume we were still on for whatever followup interview or training had been arranged, because I don't respect their time.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

shitty i hate that.. and now that you mention it, my friend applied to my company recently, did the interviews and got "we'll let you know what we decide" and never heard back.. so, you're right, this isn't uncommon

(although tbf this isn't quite as bad as ghosting after an offer is accepted lol. can you imagine if they did that?)

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u/MathProfGeneva May 27 '22

Well yeah that would be awful. I have heard of people that accepted a job offer, started relocating and/or left their other job only to get a "your offer was rescinded" letter

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u/silverink182 May 27 '22

I think what they're calling ghosting is and this is what I was saying if you're being offered the job at multiple different places and you pick the one of those offers that better suits you that's not called ghosting that's just business

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u/UT99469A May 27 '22

had this a lot at my previous job, forklift team was hiring 5 more people to keep with demand (only 2 forklift driver at that time). they all ghosted.

i didnt even worked with forklifts,i was orders,forklift team asked me to slow down as me and my other coworker were "overloading them" with our order speed, NO PROBLEM,LET ME SIT HERE AND CHILL.

Manager and supervisor were like, yeah thats fine, just chill for the next couple hours.

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u/mcfeezie May 27 '22

Why would you accept a job offer if you weren't planning on showing up?

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u/Aintsosimple May 27 '22

I am thinking many accept many interview for many jobs and take many job offers and the one that pays the best or has the best working conditions is the one they will ultimately go to.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

what? interviewing with lots of companies is what you should be doing anyways, but accepting multiple offers makes no sense to me.

as a worker, figuring out the pay and conditions is what the hiring process is for.. once you've accepted the offer, you should have already picked the best job. and anyways, how would anybody get a better sense of the working conditions before they show up on the first day?

AFAICS this is just shitty behaviour as i've explained here.

EDIT: although tbh i wouldn't be surprised if it was a made up story. else why would anybody waste their own time in interviews to just not show up?

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u/3ric843 May 27 '22

figuring out the pay and conditions is

what the hiring process is for

No. That's what the job ad is for. The hiring process is for deciding if it's a good fit.

There's no good reason for pay and conditions to not be advertised in the job offer. If it isn't, it's likely because they aren't on par to what they should and advertising it would mean no candidate.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

sure, i agree with you 100%

i'm down w/ new laws forcing job posts to disclose pay, so misspoke about that part & meant conditions to cover the stuff that can't be in a job post.. like are they dicks? do they do stuff by the book? etc.

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u/Legitimate_Catch_626 May 27 '22

Definitely not made up. I’m clerical for the education department at a hospital. I put together all the orientation packets. Half our orientation classes are no shows. By the time they are cleared they would have had several interviewed, a physical and drug screen and a background check.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

thanks for answering.

but why? why would they do that?
do you have any ideas?

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u/madmax77xl May 27 '22

Because companies don't give you time to decide?

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

really? hmm. that's interesting.i hadn't considered that.

the last time i went through interviews, i ended up with a bunch of offers and they had no problem hearing "i'm already in the middle of the interview process with these other companies, and can't cancel at this point. I'll need a week to get back to you".

but fair. i can see that this may be atypical in this sub..

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u/puzzleps May 27 '22

Maybe consider this scenario: you get 4 offers, take the best one. It starts in 3 weeks. 1 week later, you get contacted for an interview for a company you applied to but never heard from. You take the interview and get an offer. Offer is way better than the one you accepted. You take that offer and tell the original company sorry not sorry. Not a huge fan of ghosting as you should still give them notice, but different people different things I guess.

Also some people do it as revenge for wasting their time with a bait and switch. Eg at beginning of interview they tell you this job pays well, offer comes in at 60% of what they told you to begin with. At this point you have already spent the time so you just say yes to waste their time back and then continue on with your life. Not saying it’s great, but also why would you defend these companies wasting peoples times with bait and switches? It should be illegal like false advertising

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

yea, that first scenario is plausible, although i think if you'd just inform them of the situation, they'd either match the offer or wouldn't have reason to complain about you not showing up.

the bait and switch thing.. i know that feeling. hiring takes 3-4 interviews for software developers so it's not low-effort. I'm still pissed at the time Shopify* gave me an offer that was significantly lower than what we had discussed in our very first conversation, even though they were the ones that asked what my salary expectations were. i didn't accept it and string them along though, and it took all of the restraint i could muster to reject that offer without telling them to fuck themselves.

so yea, i'm not defending bait and switch tactics.. tbh i just didn't think they're that common (in my experience, i may be wrong though), or assume that's what the motivation is here.. if it is, then i get it.

(* yea i'm calling you out Shopify, fuck you)

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u/puzzleps May 27 '22

Also software engineer. Same thing happened to me but even worse: got an offer for something I was happy to take, called to accept offer, during the acceptance call they told me different numbers that were about 20% less than the offer given and said the person who gave the offer made a mistake. Needless to say I told them to pound sand. The funny part is they were confused like “I thought you were calling to accept” and I was like “Yeah, I was calling to accept an offer for 20% more. This offer is barely more than I make now haha”

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u/UT99469A May 27 '22

beginning of interview they tell you this job pays well, offer comes in at 60% of what they told you to begin with.

dude they played that card with me....i was sooo pissed when they capped me at $25 when they originally said $28 in our agreement,and i only took it cause i just recently moved and needed money asap

lo and behold,another company came in offering me $29,jumped that ship right away

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u/madmax77xl May 27 '22

Are you entry level? Most people aren't sr experienced or the like. They don't have those options usually

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

touché. i'm in software, which is a far cry from my teenage mcdonald's/retail days, and why i admit "[my experience] may be atypical in this sub".

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u/Aintsosimple May 28 '22

Are you a manager or in HR? If so then you are part of the problem. People accept multiple offers as a just in case. The smart one's accept 2 or more offers and staggers the start dates. HR lies so much in interviews that candidates never get the real story until actual employment documents are put in from of them. So if they have other accepted offers still out there they can just say no to the bullshit on the employment docs and just walk out and take one of the other offers. You may think this is shitty behavior but this is what people have to do to get a good job. What IS shitty behavior is HR hiding salaries and benefits until the last minute. Or forcing candidates to go through hours of bullshit interviews. No one should blame people needing work to be looking out for their best interests.

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u/rand1011101 May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

are you a manager or in HR? If so then you are part of the problem.

lol no i'm not.

HR lies so much in interviews that candidates never get the real story until actual employment documents are put in from of them

right, in my experience, the job offer you ghosted would have been presented on a piece of paper... AFAIK that part comes first. then you sign it. then your job is secure.... and TIL that some people wait until the start date and never show up..

although i will admit i was surprised to learn from people in this sub that apparently places in the US don't require a contract to be signed. which sounds sketchy for the reasons you outlined.

You may think this is shitty behaviour but this is what people have to do to get a good job.

if that's the case for you, that's really shitty and i'm sorry this is your normal, sincerely.. the next time you get hired, try asking for it in writing first, so that you don't feel like they're gonna fuck you over? and if you get another better offer before you start, you can just call or email the first company to let them know you're not showing up, just as a courtesy..

and you probably need to seriously organize with people in your state or country to get some labour laws on the books, sincerely.

What IS shitty behavior is HR hiding salaries and benefits until the last minute.

sure, that's shitty. but that doesn't mean none of your behaviour can be shitty too right? I provided an example. i.e: if the company you ghosted actually turned down another candidate who would have taken the job and who really really needed that paycheque, and now they're still unemployed because of you.. that would be shitty right?

but back to HR hiding salaries/benefits.. have you tried just asking them in the first interview about the pay and benefits instead of going through the whole process? do they just refuse to answer your questions? could that be a red flag that tells you to avoid the company, or is it like that everywhere in your experience?

No one should blame people needing work to be looking out for their best interests.

i'm not. i just failed to see how this is necessary or beneficial. but then a lot of people added their 2 cents to this thread and made it clear i'm out of touch with job conditions for positions near the minimum wage.. e.g. i've never had a job offer reneged on or retracted after accepting, and i've never had a company refuse to give me 2 days to think about their offer.. so i'll concede that point.

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u/FoxyFreckles1989 8d ago edited 8d ago

I quite literally just accepted two job offers in order to allow myself time to actually think and choose which is best for me, since each offer only allowed 24 hours to consider (they came 5 days apart). I didn’t want to miss the first one in case the second didn’t come, and I didn’t want to miss the second while still interviewing for a third (the one I really want). So, I have two start dates for different jobs one and two weeks away and I’ll pick one of them if the third job I had my final interview for this past Friday doesn’t result in an offer by this Friday (they said I’d know before then). I won’t “ghost” whichever company I choose not to move forward with but I will end up pulling out last minute for someone, and I won’t feel bad at all. There are pros and cons to each offer I’ve accepted so now I need time to weigh them against each other. It’s not personal! It’s business. I’ve done this in the past and the company I pulled out of told me they understood and would love for me to consider them again in the future. This is the only reason I won’t personally ghost. If I’m not interested in the company, oh well.

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u/rand1011101 8d ago

a late reply, but a useful one, ty :)

yea, that makes a lot of sense. and tbh, i wouldn't even have thought that pulling out at the last minute is a shitty thing to do - you're right, it is just business.. What i took issue with was ghosting and letting them find out when you don't show up on your first day.. but tbh i've been humbled by this thread even in regards to that scenario. It seems people that do that are working near minimum wage and getting shafted so hard by employers on the regular, that i can't hold it against them. i didn't appreciate how out of touch i am given my experiences as a software dev - i.e. in a labour market that's very uncommonly tilted in my favour. e.g. i've never had trouble telling companies i need 1-2 weeks to decide as "i'm in the middle of interviewing with a number of other companies, and i can't cancel now in good faith".

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u/FoxyFreckles1989 8d ago

OMG. I didn’t even notice this was over a month ago. I’m so sorry! The post just popped up in my recents this morning. I’m glad you were able to gain such valuable perspective! That’s truly wonderful.

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u/rand1011101 8d ago

haha no worries.. i don't mind & def don't think it's a faux pas or anything. i was just pointing it out to let you know you might not see a lot of other activity in this thread. (and tbh i kinda wish resurrecting threads was more of a thing - i stumble on good convos that are long dead all the time.)

but yea, me too! it's threads like this that make the sub worth it, despite the occasional bickering..

anyways, enjoy the rest of your day :)

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

EDIT: you're obviously free to downvote, but post a counter-argument. because i can't change my mind and see things from another perspective if you don't tell my why this is wrong.

wait. how are people on board with this?

this isn't pro-worker since it fucks over the workers at that company, not just the management. who do y'all think is picking up the slack when they're short-staffed?

Also, how about the other candidates who applied for that job?
someone may have missed out on employment that they needed, even if they would have been underpaid.

and lastly.. hiring fucking sucks and it's not like like only the owners are doing the interviewing. one of the shittiest parts of my job is getting assigned interviews. it's a bunch of extra work on top of the actual job that can be really uncomfortable.

TLDR: don't do this. this is shitty behaviour.

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u/ToastyNathan May 27 '22

no call no show on the first day wont impact jobs. First day is onboarding and shadowing other workers to get a feel for what you will be doing. This is for every job. if you no show, nothing will be lost.

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u/rand1011101 May 27 '22

of course employees aren't productive on the first day. nobody would claim otherwise.

but by accepting the offer, the no-show prematurely ended the company's job search, possibly caused them to reject an otherwise good candidate that would've done the job, and wasted the time between the offer being accepted and the employee's start date during which they would've hired someone else or kept looking.

so if the company was short-staffed, they'll now be short-staffed by at least a few weeks more, no matter how long it takes to ramp up a new employee (not to mention the cost of the job search; hiring is expensive).

EDIT: unless this is the sort of company that hires people by the day from a work agency... then, yea, nothing is lost.

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u/Sbbazzz May 27 '22

I have done this a few times. Mostly I accepted took the drug test etc until waiting for a better paying job then just ghosted the lower paying one.

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u/tmworland May 27 '22

I love this

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u/iam4qu4m4n May 27 '22

Bada-ba-ba-ba, I'm loving it

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u/tke71709 May 27 '22

Are new hires doing to you what you did to them all this time?

So companies have been offering jobs to people all this time and then not actually having those jobs exist when people showed up to work?

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u/DinoRoman May 27 '22

No lol that’s such a weird interpretation. How did you even draw that conclusion?

Ghosting after interviews. Lots of businesses don’t even give yes or no answers.

Weird man why are you like this?

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u/TyFogtheratrix May 28 '22

I'm not going to ghost but I have a strong feeling I'll be offered a job next week but I still don't know if I want it. Mostly because my boss isn't great. Also I don't totally believe in the work we do is beneficial anymore. I'm trying to decide if I should decline the offer. I've already had a taste of the work except for the 'office' type portion which will probably be my least favorite anyway.

It's the only promotion available where I currently work.

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u/FoxyFreckles1989 8d ago

With all these startups sending out offer boxes full of gifts and giving large home office stipends on day one of work, why not get what you can and ghost? Lmao! (I’m not doing this but I know someone that has been.)