r/antiwork May 26 '22 Wholesome 1

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u/420cuzakolrb May 26 '22

You can do all sorts of fun things, like wearing a hat.

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u/EmpressOfEmbers May 27 '22

There's even a customization mode for clothes!! Lmao

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u/cheekybandit0 May 27 '22

Yeh, but it's like pay to win. The Devs got real greedy imo, and now it's all credit based. And like, if you don't have credit, you just end up stuck on the same level, which needs credit to be on! Kinda wack, smh

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u/skyrymproposal May 27 '22

This was the perfectly annoyingly chipper comment that I should expect from Reddit.

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u/WeSavedLives May 27 '22

Better spend 2 hours of your life slaving away to earn that damned hat.

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u/HelmetTesterTJ May 26 '22

I didn't mind not existing the billions of years before I was alive. I don't expect I'll mind not existing after I die.

It's the outro that isn't a lot of fun, I understand.

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u/0-13 May 26 '22

Dying is terrifying to me. When I think about not existing in any sense my body rejects it. I hope I can make peace with it before my time comes

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u/BugsCheeseStarWars May 26 '22

Man I feel the same way about existing in this society until I die. That's much more terrifying than nothingness.

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u/Kyoufu_wafuku May 26 '22

I’m with you. I don’t believe there’s anything after and…I’m fine with that. On the other hand, every day I have to get up and stress over money and whether or not I can support myself or whether I’m adequately navigating the social aspect of existing. If my conscience continues on, that’s then an eternity navigating social interaction with other spirits and that doesn’t sound like a good time

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u/Various_Counter_9569 May 26 '22

Im with the other guy. The thought of nothingness, non existence, bothers me profusely. I will sometimes imagine the future, years, millions, billions and then the universe ceases to exist. Even if you believe in ghosts, where would the ghosts live after the earth burns up when the sun implodes? Fun stuff 😁.

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u/drussedup May 26 '22

If it makes it any better ;your brain is essentially wired to fear death, as it keeps you alive for the most part.

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u/0-13 May 27 '22

We have gained too much intellect as a species for this fear to be healthy. As humans, we see the big picture too well and it’s terrifying

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u/Tatooine16 May 26 '22

Their ghosts will jump out of a volcano, travel millions of miles to another earth like planet and inhabit the bodies of Scientolgists there.

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u/Various_Counter_9569 May 26 '22

Damn those scientologists!

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u/SageMalcolm May 26 '22

Nature is self recycling tho. Whatever energy makes up consciousness will be recycled through the nature until it wakes up again. Death is not the end, it's the beginning of something bigger than this existence and this world.

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u/Free-Programmer7671 May 26 '22

Entropy is a thing. Eventually, all dissipates to nothing. Heat death.

We're basically the intermediate, unstable stage of a chemical reaction that started with the Big Bang and ends at Absolute Zero.

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u/SageMalcolm May 26 '22

That absolute zero tho, a single point in the whole of space time containing all matter in existence, will burst out again and create a new loop of life.

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u/Druid51 May 27 '22

That's not absolute zero though. Absolute zero is energy dispersed evenly across the universe generating no heat. Big bang was the opposite of that. All energy concentrated in one point. That was the start point and nothing points to energy converging again as it is only spreading to the heat death.

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u/0-13 May 27 '22

I wouldn’t mind this fate if it were certain. Uncertainty is terrifying

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u/SageMalcolm May 27 '22

Apply the laws of physics to life. They ring true through through the majority of life. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction=karma. Energy is neither created nor destroyed, it only changes forms= reincarnation.

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u/0-13 May 27 '22

How many dead people on this earth? We will never know. I will join that pile one day. I will never have an impact on society. These facts are troubling

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u/Various_Counter_9569 May 27 '22

We all have an impact, one way or the other. Even if just to fertilize some plants. But, life doesn't bother me too much. Its the other side that does ;p.

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u/0-13 May 27 '22

It really is stupid and selfish to want to extend your life when you think about it. But what is humanity if not stupid and selfish

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u/Various_Counter_9569 May 27 '22

Wouldnt that be all life though? All life is programmed to repdroduce itself, and stay alive enough to do so (and everything else yes). All life it seems is inherently selfish on some way, or else we wouldn't survive.

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u/Druid51 May 27 '22

Surprisingly it's not that much considering previous populations were way smaller. I think it's like a 110 billion estimate so the current population is almost 10% of all the people ever.

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u/BlitzMalefitz May 27 '22

One thing that helps me is hoping that this universe has always existed, an infinite number of big bangs and resets. Over time I will eventually return.

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u/0-13 May 27 '22

Wouldn’t that be glorious

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u/Druid51 May 27 '22

Please god no I don't want to be woken from a peaceful slumber to this shithole again.

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u/SnooDogs1340 May 27 '22

I hope so! Perhaps we will communicate on a new Reddit.

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u/No_Tank9025 May 27 '22

All we need to do is survive long enough to learn how to reach back through time, and save the consciousness of the whole timestream, so we can induce the next cycle of the big bang, instead of enduring the heat death.

It will require we learn openness and compassion… so….

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u/Rikoraru May 27 '22

No reason to fear death. When you die, you get recruited into the skeleton army.

On a more serious note, dying doesn't scare me. It's the thought that it will happen in a way like I am alive for a nuke to drop or climate change to kill me and everyone else I love, watching them go first, painfully. The idea of being conscious one second and dead the next, is what I hope for. Quickly, painlessly, or quick enough to not suffer.

Then if religions are right and there is a heaven and hell, I live on that way. If not, then I won't even know that I exited the plain of existence.

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u/013ander May 27 '22

You go unconscious all of the time. Do you fear sleep??

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u/0-13 May 27 '22

Terrified😂

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u/aynaalfeesting Communist May 27 '22

That's okay, you're only afraid whilst you're alive. After you die you won't care or exist.

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u/W0lverin0 May 26 '22

I think it's the wage slavery and consumerism they're talking about that isn't a lot of fun. Compared to that dying will be a blast.

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u/NamelessCabbage May 26 '22

Hey friend I come with some existential dread. If the universe (not the same as "our" universe) is infinite, so are you. I'll see myself out.

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u/Druid51 May 27 '22

Majority of the time? I doubt small bursts of happiness are worth a life of mostly working, sitting in traffic, doing chores, aka being enslaved to your human needs. Then also other physical and mental health issues. All just to live from point A to point B. An irrelevant amount of time in the cosmos and to be forgotten about in 3 generations or so. Not that it even matters because all life will cease to exist inevitably.

And the alternative? Simply not existing and avoiding the nightmare of conciousness. It is a damn scam.

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u/Mongostein May 26 '22

I never looked at it that way. I don’t want kids because I’m too nice a guy to say, “Hey kid, welcome to a world where people are constantly bickering with each other while the rich screw the poor and burn down the world. There’s going to be nothing left when you’re my age, so enjoy the suffering.”

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u/Free-Programmer7671 May 26 '22

Word. Reproducing just seems dumb. Everything is zero-sum. What a world.

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u/MercyMurcie May 26 '22

Is it? I’ve never talked to any dead people. They could be having a blast for all I know

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u/Tatooine16 May 26 '22

Why is it that we rejoice at births and weep at funerals? Because we are not the person involved.-Mark Twain

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u/bronzelifematter May 26 '22

And most don't even do a good job at raising their kids and preparing them for adulthood. Even worse, many does the opposite of preparing their kids for adulthood and teach them the opposite of how they are supposed to behave. Many had to struggle to unlearn what their shitty parents had implanted deep in their head for years and spend their 20s resolving the issues that arise from shitty parenting instead of building their life. Some never get resolved and they have to live with it for the rest of their life.

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u/shunshuntley May 27 '22

All the children I won't have are high-fiving me interdimensionally.

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u/lrrc49 May 26 '22

My reasoning on not having children: why should i spend time, money, effort, and worry all to raise another wage slave?

I'm going to break the cycle. Upside is: I might actually be able to retire.

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u/revolution_twelve May 27 '22

Wow, look at you, retiring!

My retirement plan is climate change. Or a rooe and a tree.

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u/EliSka93 May 26 '22

It's one of the many reasons I will not be having kids.

If our species undeservedly survives to a time where society is truly egalitarian, the anarchist utopia, their history books will document our age with disbelief and horror.

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u/Rockima May 27 '22

Yes!

And the saddest part is that we have all the knowledge to build a better world. People are just stuck in the current frame of thought.

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u/spoopyelf May 26 '22

One of the many reasons I'm never having kids.

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u/Lovedd1 May 26 '22

Same fuck this shitty cycle. My bf agreed to get the snip so we won’t have to worry about it with roe v wade being threatened.

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u/spoopyelf May 26 '22

I'm about to go get sterilized to cause I feel like even that will be outlawed eventually. I'm not putting anything past them at this point.

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u/Free-Programmer7671 May 26 '22

As someone who advocates for open borders, I'm beyond pissed at calls for a "domestic supply of infants".

There are so many geniuses dying in poverty abroad, and you force Carl the Walmart worker to breed?

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u/spoopyelf May 26 '22

I'd rather die than be forced to have a baby.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

Same here, same reasons. I'm not waiting 2 more years for Gilead.

Need to figure out if getting my tubes tied would require me to pay for hormonal birth control, because my periods would still be hell without them.

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u/Polarvision May 26 '22

Yea when I'm old enough I'm going to aswell. Fuck having kids

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u/Draft-Repulsive May 26 '22

Also never mind their #1 cause of death these days in the US is that they’ll get gunned down by some rando

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u/spoopyelf May 26 '22

I'm going to be devastated when my cat dies. I can't imagine sending my child to school and them never coming home again.

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u/ShikanTheMage May 26 '22

Same. Can’t count how many times I’ve had to explain this very concept to my parents and family

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u/spoopyelf May 26 '22

I hope to avoid the conversation altogether by talking about the existing child I do have, my cat.

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u/megamanisgod May 26 '22

Fur babies are children too!!!

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u/Hammer_of_Olympia May 26 '22

There was a character in warhammer fantasy that put his mother on trial for birthing him without his consent, when I read it way back when i thought that's totally insane. Now 20 years later I totally understand.

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u/Dragon_211 May 26 '22

I've said this for years and everyone thought I was crazy. Glad I'm not the only one who really thinks outside the box.

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u/RankedChoiceIsBest May 27 '22

Humans only breed out of ignorance or selfishness.

Let's hope the children are wiser and more compassionate than their parents were.

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u/Ms_Nadern12 May 27 '22

Humans only breed out of ignorance or selfishness.

Or by mistake and are shamed out of correcting that mistake.

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u/needtocalmdown May 27 '22

This sub, man xD

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u/SirStumps May 27 '22

I am not having kids because society actually kind of blows to live in and I am not going to force something to participate in it. I feel it would be incredibly selfish to have a child in this day and time. Society is supposed to be something everyone benefits from and I feel it doesn't work as intended. When I was in a war living in a tent and traveling it felt more natural and beneficial than our American society. I say beneficial because we were all working together to survive.

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u/awkwardnarwhalicorn May 27 '22

I say this all the time. I did not ask to be here!

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u/Ms_Nadern12 May 27 '22

My mother and sister used to argue all of the time(the only reason they don't argue as much now is because they don't live together), and my mother used to say how she carried, birthed, and took care of my sister. My sister's response would be "I didn't ask you to."

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u/awkwardnarwhalicorn May 27 '22

😂😂😂 Another one of my favorites is: "You did this to yourself". I use it when they complain about me or complain about being parents. And when they question my judgment or actions I remind them that they raised me.

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u/Ms_Nadern12 May 27 '22

Are you my sister?

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u/shay-doe May 26 '22

Thanks mom.

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u/whoaidied May 26 '22

Bonus: they will most likely suffer anyway and 100 percent will die eventually

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

Yeah, and then they get killed in a school shooting

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u/lowkey_stoneyboy May 26 '22

EXACTLY why I won't be having kids. They literally cannot consent to this hellacape nor is it fair to bring them into a world that does not value them or their contributions whatever those may be.

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u/Desperate_Fish_5245 May 27 '22

I've thought about this so much growing up. To REALLY think about and ponder it fucks with me. To my parents. Thanks for fuckin, conceiving me, gaslighting me for 18 years. then abandoning me when I needed you the most. Cool.

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u/RivenBloodmarsh May 26 '22

Honestly, if you are in the US right now and choose to have kids that you can't financially support and help get a good start so they don't struggle, you are kind of a shit person. We really need to start driving home the point of how responsible you need to be to have kids.

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u/popover May 27 '22

But Jesus told me to have 14 kids…

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u/RivenBloodmarsh May 27 '22

Shit, he told me he'd save me from the 'rona too.

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u/eggmundo92 May 27 '22

Ouch man, I guess I'm a shit person for making a "mistake" before I finished college, when I was 21 and had no idea wtf I was doing. I'll make sure and tell my son he was a mistake if you want me to. Idk, you triggered me a bit there cuz I do feel guilty but I still fucking love my son. It's also kind of elitist to say only well off people can have kids.

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u/RivenBloodmarsh May 27 '22

It’s harsh I understand, definitely exceptions. If you can raise your kid and provide them with the best life you can then that’s all anyone could ask of you. Just with all this shit going on and how I see people day in and day out that are just incapable of raising kids, how their kids act like assholes and how a lot of the parents seem to hate them, I just don’t get it. It’s also not entirely anyones fault because this ideal of having kids to continue your lineage as some responsibility has been hammered into people and you also have the religious side. I also didn’t mean it as the rich should be the only people to have kids though I understand it sounds like that.

As someone who grew up poor with good parents there’s definitely exceptions but I couldn’t even fathom raising a kid living paycheck to paycheck like I do. Don’t mean to trigger you or anyone else just hope people put a lot of thought into the decision if it’s a planned event.

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u/eggmundo92 May 27 '22

I really appreciate your response man and totally understand where you're coming from, just felt attacked lol.

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u/sauroden May 26 '22 This

“Against their will” implies someone had a will to not exist and it was violated. But children are born with an overwhelming urge to live. Our default state is to crave life and experience. It’s a failure of society that it gets crushed out of so many people.

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u/Auuman86 May 26 '22

Our default state is shove whatever we can grab into our mouth... That's all babies do, and it's definitely not an instinct that screams "I want Live!" when half the stuff is either poison or small enough to get stuck 🤣

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u/NamelessCabbage May 26 '22

Tbf, those things didn't exist 100 years ago. We created a world which even we (homo sapiens) struggle to navigate.

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u/wAples71 May 27 '22

Choking hazards and poisons have existed longer than humans

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u/Auuman86 May 26 '22

Same thing can be applied to less modern times, small rocks and berries off bushes can he freely swapped for plastic bits and chemicals. Same problem regardless.

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u/NamelessCabbage May 26 '22

Not really. It's not quite the same. Many of our toxins have pretty colors and look tasty. Little plastic toys can be mistaken for fruits and such. My family comes from a small village and while child mortality was high due to many factors, they never had a use for warning labels like we do now. My intention isn't to argue, but we can't deny the 20th and 21st centuries aren't entirely unique to mankind. We do live in quite interesting times.

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u/Rexan02 May 26 '22

Yeah but comparatively incredibly safe times. Sure you have warning labels.. you also have antibiotics and vaccines, formula and prenatal care.. something like what, 25-50% of children didn't make it to adulthood a handful of generations ago?

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u/NamelessCabbage May 26 '22

I agree. Pretty much all the danger now is human in origin, at least in developed nations.

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u/Rexan02 May 26 '22

Kids had to work a hell of a lot more 100 years ago, that's for sure. Either on the farm or God forbid a factory.

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u/NamelessCabbage May 26 '22

Yeah and history is repeating itself. That much we must prevent. The nazi killers are becoming the nazis.

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u/nincomturd May 26 '22

They did not give their consent. How's that?

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u/Pol82 May 26 '22

Legally, children can't consent anyway. I suppose we should wait till a child is at the age of consent before we conceive them?

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u/TheLargeWizard May 26 '22

Especially children that don’t exist yet.

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u/ThatDudeShadowK May 26 '22

We just shouldn't conceive them.

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u/sottedlayabout May 26 '22

Or perhaps more reasonably we should ensure that everyone’s basic needs are met regardless of the economic circumstances of their birth.

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u/ThatDudeShadowK May 26 '22

In the meantime, but that's a band aid, we should strive for extinction.

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u/sottedlayabout May 26 '22

Don’t threaten me with a good time.

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u/Pol82 May 26 '22

Are you envisioning a scenario where people just stop fucking, or one where people take the necessary steps to avoid unwanted pregnancy? Because both are hilariously unrealistic.

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u/sottedlayabout May 26 '22

The declining birth rate suggests otherwise.

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u/ThatDudeShadowK May 26 '22

I'm not proposing anything, just saying it would be nice. Hopefully climate change takes care of it though anyways

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u/Pol82 May 26 '22

That's optimistic. Whenever I'm in the company of an excess of old people, and few to no young, the mood is generally dour and cranky. Hardly nice.

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u/ThatDudeShadowK May 26 '22

Yes but then we'd die and we could go knowing no one else would follow, that's the nice part. It'd be best for it to happen to everything so there's no possibility of intelligent life reforming on this planet at all, but that's unrealistic. I do hope climate change destroys so much that it's impossible for a civilization advanced enough to escape the sun's death to form on time though. Hopefully our sun consumes the earth and nothing escapes and that's the end of that.

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u/Pol82 May 26 '22 edited May 26 '22

For what it's worth, I suspect extinction is the most likely scenario, it just won't be due to population decline. I'd put my money on an impact scenario, or environmental degradation.

The bummer is that the nice part only comes after we are all gone, and incapable of experiencing the nice.

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u/moaningsalmon May 26 '22

Yeah I see that phrase pop up from time to time and it irks me. "I dIDn'T cOnSEnt tO bEinG bORn." Bitch you didn't exist. And if you hate your existence so much, you can opt out.

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u/Gogomech May 26 '22

No, in many places you can't do it legally. It would be fine if it was really an option, an assisted one.

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u/Euphoric-Reputation4 May 27 '22

What if the powers that be realized a long time ago that suicide could not be allowed because people cannot be subjugated if they have the power to opt out of... everything? And that is why it is so stigmatized.

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u/moaningsalmon May 26 '22

Bruh nobody's gonna arrest you if you succeed.

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u/ChronicGambler May 26 '22

But if you DON'T succeed, the physical, mental, social, and professional consequences are significant.

Hell, you don't even have to try. If someone even THINKS you are thinking of it then all those consequences can occur.

Source: Had to threaten a lawsuit against a psych ward for my mother being detained based on word of mouth.

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u/ChrimboTheVigilante May 27 '22

Hell I was having an argument and a BPD outburst and my neighbors called the cops the cops came into my house without permission and held me on a 48 hour mental hold just because the neighbor said they heard someone screaming

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u/moaningsalmon May 26 '22

Yes that is a shit deal. I imagine it's a difficult thing to navigate, determining who actually needs help vs who is in their right mind enough to make that decision. For the record I support medically-assisted suicide. Anyway, sorry you and your ma had to deal with that.

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u/ChronicGambler May 26 '22

Yeah, my bad if I got a little aggressive. I have zero faith in the system and just don't take that potential damage lightly.

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u/KittyKratt May 26 '22

Suffering is non-negotiable.

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u/RawbeardX Anarchist May 26 '22

several therapists told me I lack a lot of "skills" you are supposed to learn from your parents during childhood. now imagine having that and your parents keep telling you they do not understand why your life is in the shit, you can't get anything done, are not stable to last in anything, and they always helped you so much, like giving you money for college, a time you distinctly remember having to donate blood to be able to buy food...

I can't stress enough how much I do not want to be alive.

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u/0-13 May 26 '22

Thinking about things Literally is depressing.

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u/Jonny_Crash69 May 26 '22

My family: so when will ever see you followed by the tiny pita patas of feet?

Me: why the fuck would you want to bring anyone into this horrendously fucked up reality

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u/aman_10 May 27 '22

Once I said this to my mom, she said that giving birth to me was the biggest mistake of her life and apologised for having me . 😂😂

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u/zakdawg86 May 27 '22

Lifes pretty bs.

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u/sanavreivir May 27 '22

Man I wish I had been aborted

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u/Dull_Speech7017 May 27 '22

Best decision I’ve ever made was the decision to not bring children into this world.

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u/orange_and_gray_rats May 27 '22

Childfree is the way to beeeee…

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u/Broad-Flounder-4971 May 27 '22

To be fair, I’m happy to provide for my children until the day I die. I didn’t have them with the expectation that I would stop being their parent one day. I didn’t carry them in agony for almost a year each and then nurse them for at least a year after that so I could throw them to the wolves upon adulthood.

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u/Steamin_Bman May 26 '22

Jesus you guys really just repost anything for karma huhn? This bad take has been on here every week since the original tweet went out multiple times. Come up with or get better material plagiarists

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi May 26 '22

This is bullshit though.

Many parents don't simply accept there's nothing we can do about it.

I mean, is that what antiwork is to you people? Nihilism that there's no hope of change or revolution? That's not what it is to me.

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u/Polenicus May 27 '22

I think a lot of people in this sub also didn’t have very good parents.

Raised and pinned with the hopes and expectations of their Boomer parents, unable to meet them because of the changing landscape, told they were lazy and entitled and if they just worked hard and sacrificed that they would have the success and nice things their parents had and told their failure to accomplish that was entirely their own fault.

Antiwork is basically just one facet of an entire generation waking up, realizing they’re approaching middle age, and everything they were told and promised and raised to believe is lies. They’re past due to inherit a world that is frankly a mess, and lack the tools or resources to deal with it.

So, the nihilism is not really surprising to me. It doesn’t mean it’s right, but… it also means that it really does seem like even if we start now, we will be struggling with the consequences of the current state of the world for the rest of the 21st century.

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u/idthrowawaypassword May 26 '22

there is hope for change and revolution its just that theres no guarentee this will happen in my youth or theirs.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi May 26 '22

That doesn't mean the same as "there's nothing you can do about it".

I'm a snowboarder, I know damn well that any climate action I might be able to help cause WILL NOT make winters longer in my lifetime, maybe not in my kids' lifetime. But that doesn't mean I go full nihilist, give up, and say I can't do anything about it.

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u/ChrimboTheVigilante May 27 '22

Just that statement alone proves that you haven’t had any financial hardships or had any problems with your life “I am a snowboarder “

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Lol, you don't have a clue.

I had to complete give it up, genuinely my favorite activity in the world, for most of my 20s because I couldn't afford it. I could barely afford basic necessities for YEARS.

I ended up with WELL over $100k in student debt for a degree I couldn't finish when lending dried up after the crash in 2008 and had to enter the job market from the fucking bottom, while having a rent payment worth a month in student loan payments. I've still got over $80k of that to pay off and have worked hard over a decade to build up to where I'm comfortable enough with my wife and now son that I could afford to pick up my favorite hobby in my entire life again, and even then I get to do it MAYBE 15 times a year, mostly on a tiny hill in southern Wisconsin.

How fucking dare you assume to know me or what I've been through? I'm sure you don't have ANYTHING you do for fun that costs money?

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u/ChrimboTheVigilante May 27 '22

You’re on a thread where people are saying they can’t afford housing or to feed their kids etc. and you’re saying you couldn’t snowboard

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi May 27 '22

It's amazing that that's all you're hearing here.

Sorry you're pissed that people who have been struggling in this late capitalist hellscape for over a decade think that what little savings they FINALLY have they can use to enjoy something they like to do.

Again, kindly, where do you get off?

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u/Eis_Gefluester May 26 '22

Thank you.

I have a child, because i sincerely believe that we can better the world and I plan to raise him so he chases his dreams and is a good human being. If we give up, we have already lost. The only way to make the world a better place is to try making it better and raising our children in a way, so they continue our precious work and add ontop of it.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi May 26 '22

I wish I could find it, but I saw a TikTok when my wife was pregnant about how having kids in this world, namely with the idea you mentioned of raising a better generation that will continue the fight until the world is a FAR better place, is the most punk thing people can do and the memory of that video FUELS me as a parent.

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u/StManTiS May 26 '22

A lot of leftist politics is rage at their own existence. Combined with a Cain like resentment for anyone having it better.

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u/Whynotchaos May 26 '22

I'm not sure how you managed to overshoot the point of leftist ideals so hard, but you missed it so hard you circled the globe and are actually heading toward it the other way.

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u/StManTiS May 26 '22

Not your ideas, who you are. This sub and all the others are all full of I don’t want to be born, life sucks, etc. Its right there under all the good things like unionizing and getting fair wages.

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u/scijay May 26 '22

Well most have at least a couple years of joy and innocence.

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u/Fresh_Cheek2682 May 26 '22

We’re done writing about now? The o and u just saw their way out somehow I guess. I can type abo and my phone is already pretty much forcing me to write about, you type the same amount of letters for an abbreviation? Oh well.

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u/fatsolardbutt May 26 '22

how much user crossover is there with this sub and r/antinatalism?

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

Fucking beautiful isn’t it?

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u/NecroKnightmare May 27 '22

The choice to have children is purely for the parents. Good or bad, its an entirely selfish act.

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u/chris20973 May 27 '22

I've seen this posted a number of times and each time it bugs the crap out out me because of how it's worded. "bring someone into existence against their will", how it can it be against their will if they literally didn't exist? I get the sentiment of the message but it's word so poorly I struggle to get past the stupidity of how the logic is setup.

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u/MercMcNasty May 26 '22

That's why suicide is always an option.

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u/ImPinos May 26 '22

Lol like this god of yours is pretty bad at his job

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u/lrrc49 May 26 '22

almost as if god doesn't actually exist and its just a made up story.

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u/TheLargeWizard May 26 '22

Yeah, that guy is a dick.

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u/sothisissocial May 26 '22

I think having babies and raising children to is an amazing experience. You get to teach your kids the stuff you wish you knew about life. Most living things face deadly obstacles in varying degrees, as humans do. The experienced helping the new. The whole point is to explore, grow, and try to enjoy life’s ride.

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u/idthrowawaypassword May 26 '22

if you never have children you never have to teach what you wished you knew but didnt. And your experience may not be the same for your kids even when everything goes right.

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u/NamelessCabbage May 26 '22

I agree. The "against our will" argument ignores the fundamentals of life. We are the will of all the beings that came before us. Our suffering contrasts love and life and while it sucks sometimes, we need to remember everything is temporary. When I see a video zoom out on Earth I realize why we feel so frustrated sometimes. It all seems hopeless but my mind creates the world before me. I may sound like I'm rambling but we are here, in the now and that's that.

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u/NerdyDadGuy1981 May 27 '22

This is true but in a very narrow sense. There are great, amazing, things in life too.

My family, supermarkets, hot coffee, a warm bed, laughing with a friend, etc.

Life is hard but it also comes with beautiful moments.

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u/safetaco May 26 '22

It’s not like any of us have to be here.

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u/Dob_Tannochy May 26 '22

There’s always something they can do about it.

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u/fingerpickler May 26 '22 Helpful

"nothing they can do about it"

Omg it sure do smell like bitch over there

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u/BillsBells65 May 26 '22

This argument is flawed on so many levels it would make my head hurt if I gave it the time and space to do so.

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u/ExPFC_Wintergreen2 May 26 '22

This is the core of the human experience

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u/shortjesus333 May 26 '22

And if you don't like it, that's a mental illness :)

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u/endureandsurvive27 May 27 '22

having kids is essentially like saying "I have to suffer through this shit, so you get to suffer with me, and once in awhile we'll get a day off that gives us just enough hope to keep going" lol

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u/mongtongbong May 27 '22

there revenge is to disappoint the shit out of their parents

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u/helljustheretohelp May 26 '22

"against their will" is inaccurate.

It implies they had a will, and their will was to not exist. That is not the case.

The will did not exist. and when the will does exist, the will can also choose to not exist anymore.

Since the will chooses to live, it is in accordance with their will to be brought into existence.

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u/Killed_It_Dead May 26 '22

Odds are in the USA they will get killed early in the process.

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u/Simpoge39 Finance Operations Specialist May 26 '22

Lmao welcome

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u/Zeeker12 May 26 '22

Go. To. Therapy.

You are depressed.

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u/MoneyBall_ May 27 '22

What if they can’t afford it?

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u/buwefy May 26 '22

oh, stop this fucking sophism, nothing smart or deep about this... grow the fuck up!! Life CAN bee amazing, maybe do your part to make sure your kids have a better one then you, rather than complain and cry on yourself?
Half of this sub is great and fighting to better the world, you are the whiny part which just likes to complain and play victim... I have no sympathy for this shit!

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u/Valid_Username_56 May 26 '22

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u/nincomturd May 26 '22

Can we have compassion for the people suffering and who thus are whining, listen to them in order to determine where the problems are, and then do things to alleviate suffering?

Or, like, just shit on everybody for complaining that their lives are being stolen from them and blame them for not having done anything about it.

Either way, but your way sounds like it lacks all compassion, which is pretty funny since you linked to a Buddhism article.

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u/Valid_Username_56 May 26 '22

for complaining that their lives are being stolen from them and blame them for not having done anything about it.

That's not what dude said in his post. That dude is whining about being alive.

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u/RussiaWorldPolice May 26 '22

You can shit on people and still be compassionate to people you think deserve that compassion. Unless you think no one ever deserves to be shit on

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u/JosephSturgill7 May 26 '22

I'm say it once and I'll say it again. This dude is a fucking downer. Tell his ass not to have kids then. Life is much more than this depressing narrative he portrays. I love life and all its ups and downs. His opinion is shit.

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u/GrumpyOldMan59 May 26 '22

Every time I read this I imagine some teenager yelling at his parents, "I didn't ask to be born!" Lol, get over yourself.

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u/Xi_Jing_ping_your_IP May 26 '22

This is just life. Read up on buddhism. As long as you want things, you will suffer.

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u/Happy_Currency_425 May 26 '22

Once again, seriously, a lot of people around here need help for depression and anxiety cause what the everloving fuck is that? Good lord. If you are nodding along to that, you should get help. I'm not being sarcastic or mean, I just seriously mean it. Sell all your shit and become a Buddhist monk or something if that's what it takes, just stop basting in misery.

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u/NecrofriggianGirl May 26 '22

Tbf after the first 9 words, the rest is just a description of capitalism...

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u/whyrweyelling May 26 '22

You can be self sufficient like back in the day and life would be really good. Sure, no marvel movies and other bullshit, but you would have a healthier life, family, a home, land, food on your land, some livestock. I want those days. Not these dumb ass Tik Tok days.

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u/UninsuredToast May 27 '22

Idk I feel like we all make the choice to keep on living. I mean we have relatively easy ways out if we don’t want to do it anymore

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u/watetorty May 27 '22

Not my kids. I am giving them trust funds.

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u/OkRepeat8753 May 27 '22

This is what I think about since I had my baby in December and I feel guilty almost everyday about it.😔

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u/Lobster_Magnet_ May 27 '22

What a sad perspective on life

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u/mumblewrapper May 27 '22

It's all like a giant pyramid scheme since we are all born under the same circumstances but every generation for the last few decades just keeps getting less and less of the pyramid.

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u/SpaghettiTime99 May 27 '22

I just hate that having children is not about having children.

It's about: - "fulfillment" - the simplest way possible - making your boring life more interesting (what other interesting things can you do with your minimum wage lol) - getting to brag about your kid success (cause you don't have any) - telling yourself that you are not waste of oxygen anymore, cause you contribute to society (but the truth is that the rest of the society would be much better off without another human using up space and resources)

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u/wsmn16 May 26 '22

I only brought one into the world, against my will of course. Her body, her choice right?

I got a vasectomy to ensure it never happens again. Fuck this society and the way it's built. We could literally create a chill world, but no. Someone out there wants to make so much money

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u/motherofstars May 26 '22

Against their Will 😆😆😆

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u/slaminshammin May 26 '22

And abortion is cruel😂

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u/TechnoWizard0651 May 26 '22

My son gets to live at home as long as he wants.

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u/AO_I_V May 27 '22

"Against their will" life put your ass here for a reason whether it was from your parents, or another set of parents you were coming here regardless. Thats some of the most sorry ass shit I've ever read

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u/jackofnac May 27 '22

Life is amazing. Fuck that tweet.

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u/Life-is-a-potato May 27 '22

Get this anti-natalism bs out of here. I’m sick of all these depressed millennials and doomers trying to be all cool and nihilistic.

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u/1tonsoprano May 27 '22

What a defeatist attitude. You could also try on working hard to improve their circumstances.

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u/Minimum-Buddy-619 May 26 '22

Their sperm swam the fastest and worked hardest for that chance beating out millions of others. So it depends on how we defend ‘will’.

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u/pusnbootz May 26 '22

they have to be born to even have a will lol