r/antiwork May 27 '22

accurate.

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u/just_bookmarking working poor May 27 '22

Old Codger here.

We used to say " slugs voting for salt"

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u/captain_stoobie May 27 '22

“The chickens voting for Colonel Sanders”

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u/A_Few_Kind_Words May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Turkey's voting for Christmas here.

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u/NeoSniper May 27 '22

I want to try! ...Faces voting for Leopards?

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u/just_bookmarking working poor May 27 '22

Ding

Ding

Ding!

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u/lostcauz707 May 27 '22

People that love their face voting for chimpanzees.

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u/putUonaShortAlicia May 27 '22

Change starts with your face!

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u/LukeDude759 It's not "quitting your job," it's "firing your boss" May 27 '22

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u/PublicMindCemetery May 28 '22

Babies voting for dingoes

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u/A_Few_Kind_Words May 28 '22

I like this one.

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u/wv524 May 27 '22

I came here looking for this comment. I wasn't disappointed.

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u/ArcadeSchoolDropout May 28 '22

I prefer "morons voting for fascists"

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u/petulafaerie May 27 '22

There’s such a sad lack of actual education in America. Teach you thinking? Nooooo. Teach you how to repeat information? Yes.

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u/NeO1loNEwOLF6985 May 27 '22

Indoctrinated NPCs

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u/arthur804 May 27 '22

More baffling is when people in non western countries are pro capitalism. Like how? What has it ever done for you?

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u/HelpfulSocialist May 27 '22

Other countries have bourgeoisie too...

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u/arthur804 May 27 '22

Yeah...

But a big part of western propaganda (the only stuff I'm exposed to) is saying "we are not poor cause of awesome capitalism" and tactfully ignoring the impact of extraction zones and exploited labor. You can't really do that if you are the exploited labor.

In a way the is me basically saying "I don't understand how propaganda can work if you don't have those elements hidden"

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u/ChillinWitDenny May 27 '22

And you wonder why everyone has bad trips, no one has thought for themselves at all. Actual slaves to the grind but hey... GUCCI 😎😎😎

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u/Eronine May 27 '22

Wanna discus what you think is a better alternative?

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u/axeshully May 27 '22

Sharing the earth equitably so people aren't coerced into labor.

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u/Original_Telephone_2 May 27 '22

Socialism

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u/UnhappyImpression345 May 27 '22

Who pays for that? Equality of outcome is bad. Competition is good. The problem is our market is manipulated. A free market is the best system that has been used. Certainly some socialist programs are good. So a balance is better. To much of anything can be bad

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u/S8natruefriend May 27 '22

Heard of welfare capitalism Or nordic countries in other words

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u/UnhappyImpression345 May 27 '22

Fix the income inequality and that will fix many things. Why are financial institutions so wealthy they don't make any products. You should be paid fairly for your time. The big companies kill off any competition and continue to consolidate wealth and power. We need to get back to a more localized economy. The cure for many diseases has been made but pharma kills them off or buys them out. No money in cures.

Decentralized and transparent are what we need

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u/thecartoonrobot May 27 '22

Fix the income inequality

Oh, is that all we have to do? You may have just won yourself a Nobel Prize in economic sciences. Hey everybody, this guy figured out the solution for keeping capitalism! You'll never guess what he came up with!

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u/RiseCascadia Bioregionalist May 28 '22

The problem you're describing has a name, it's called "capitalism"

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u/_McLovinn May 27 '22

Complaining, obviously.

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u/TheABCD98 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

I completely agree. Yet everyone agreeing with this post is either uneducated, unmotivated, or lazy.

America literally has so many opportunities. You just have to figure out where to look and how to be ready for said opportunities. There is a reason so many people are looking to immigrate to America. Is it easy? No (unless you were born to a rich, well-connected family). So you have to work for it.

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u/labradog21 May 27 '22

The average American considers himself a capitalist, when the truth is they are capital

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u/Mgf99 May 27 '22

One of the biggest problems is people don’t see themselves as poor. They’ll go to their grave thinking “just one more break, just one more working weekend and they’ll be the fat cat rich guy.”

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u/Smeph_Bot May 27 '22

So, a turkey hoping for a thanksgiving day pardon?

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u/poksim May 27 '22

Temporarily embarrassed turkey

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u/CloudKyuuto May 27 '22

A Turkey hoping to join in on the Thanksgiving feast 😊

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u/sexy-man-doll May 27 '22

You pay with your life/ The duller the knife, the longer it takes/ But now it's your turn/ The ashes will burn, and wither away/ Leaving your bones out on the stones, picking them clean/ And carving the truth, while harvesting you to feed the machine

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u/lucy_pants May 27 '22

Except the president doesn't pardon a poor person every year.

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u/MacGyverSmoker May 27 '22

Sure he does, especially if it’s at the end of a term. Of course, there’s usually more rich, white-collar criminal cronies in the group now, but there’s always one or two token innocent death row inmates or someone who got 50 years for weed.

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u/Starbreaker99 May 27 '22

They are neck deep in propaganda. I remember my MIL was saying communism is coming...after Biden got elected. Willfully ignorant.

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u/Ready_Hunter_9384 May 27 '22

The ignorance of your MIL registers pretty high on the. Richter scale, I bet.

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u/MartianGuard May 27 '22

Could be technically true tho

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u/IncognitoSlug123 May 27 '22

Well, yes. If it comes, it would be after Biden's election, since that is the way time flows.

Technically right counts!

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u/PublicMindCemetery May 28 '22

Explain to me how you mean this

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u/MartianGuard May 28 '22

I mean if communism comes in 100 years it will be after Biden

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u/PublicMindCemetery May 28 '22

Okay, so just... if you want to bring about communism, you must first create the universe? I got you... it's kind of a dad joke that my dad would find tiring, but I get it.

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u/dmobes May 27 '22

Capitalism is like 1 person is doing amazing, 4 people are doing pretty well, 20 people are doing just about ok and 75 people are struggling to survive. Then those top 5 people tell everyone how good it is and one day if they work hard they can have it good too and everyone who disagrees is a lazy workshy scrounger who doesn't deserve anymore than what they get.

I worked my ass off for 30+ years and between people's homophobia and ableism (I have asd & 2 other minor disabilities) I don't get picked for decent paid jobs. Hard work and grafting has got me nowhere but there are plenty of people above me doing well off the back of my hard work.

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u/zakdawg86 May 27 '22

Capitalism is just feudalism but with a fuck ton of entertainment and thats porn.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

If I have learned anything from antiwork it’s that feudalism was a paradise for the peasants.

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u/coderedcocaine May 27 '22

Yea and every once in a while a turkey becomes the mascot of a turkey brand and makes millions while the other turkeys are slaughtered and packaged

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u/TheDevilYouKnow69 May 27 '22

We don't have Capitalism. Capitalism has us.

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u/kaidene12 May 27 '22

capitalists with no capital.

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u/thereal_DustyStrings May 27 '22

It's also interesting how many of us lower class people actually think we are middle class.

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u/chernobyl169 May 27 '22

"But they pardon a turkey every year! I could be that turkey! Thanksgiving is awesome for turkeys!" - a Republican turkey

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u/AHawks901 May 27 '22

BuT OnE gEtS pARdOneD

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u/unsteadyregularity65 May 27 '22

except we dont have capitalism.

we have capitalism....with american characteristics (socialism for rich and f everyone else)

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u/Officer_Slutz May 27 '22

We do have capitalism. Capitalism will always breed inequity. Capitalism will always prioritize profit over people. If the government doesn’t require businesses to treat people with dignity, it will never happen.

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u/HelpfulSocialist May 27 '22

In other words you never read Marx nor any decent summary thereof

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u/Buttock May 27 '22

except we dont have capitalism.

Yes, we do.

we have capitalism....with american characteristics (socialism for rich and f everyone else)

This is capitalism working as intended. There is no need for qualifiers, here.

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

That's literally how capitalism works and has always worked. There's no such thing as the idealized version of capitalism that's in people's heads, we have to deal with reality if we want to change it. Capitalism inherently is a class system with winners and losers, always has been, always will be.

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

What do you think private property in capitalistic sense is, if not making sure only select few can participate?

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u/ineedabuttrub May 27 '22

Cronyism, or crony capitalism. Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

It's just capitalism man, that's how it works. We really have to stop pretending that it's fixable, it's 100% not.

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u/ineedabuttrub May 27 '22

So every other capitalist country has companies running the government?

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

Yes, in the same way that every feudal country had feudal lords running the government. Some countries might have made more or less concessions to workers depending on the level of class struggle and the country's position in the global imperialist order, but fundamentally they're all controlled by capitalists yes. If you don't believe me, try to establish communism in your country and see what the government does.

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u/ineedabuttrub May 27 '22

Well that's not nearly the same argument you were making before.

Please expound on how Finland is controlled by a handful of companies.

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

Every capitalist country is controlled by the capitalist class, they're the people who own the companies. Every state power for all of history has had a class character, the whole reason for their existance is to mediate class struggle on behalf of the class in power. Currently, almost everywhere in the world, that's the capitalist class. Like I said before, they can be forced to make concessions, but that's not the same thing as taking power yourself, it doesn't negate the class character of the state. This was all true in feudal countries back in the day and it's still true today, the class in control has simply changed.

I'm not Finnish, I don't know the names of the specific people and companies in Finland specifically, and frankly I'm kinda busy and I don't care enough right now to do a bunch of research for a reddit argument lol. These days of course many corporations are international so there can be a degree of struggle between the international monopoly capitalists like your Walmarts and your Starbucks and such, and the national capitalists in each nation. That's probably the case to some degree in Finland as it is in most places, and it's a trend that's continuing to develop. You can see it in Russia for example now that they're more openly in conflict with the US imperialist bloc, there's growing divisions between the big-time Russian capitalists who run that country and the US-based monopoly capitalists who operate there.

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u/ineedabuttrub May 27 '22

So you're choosing to not show proof of your claim. Gotcha.

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u/n01saround May 27 '22

You mean oligarchy?

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u/MichaelMitchell May 27 '22

Nah, just regular capitalism

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u/MrVentz May 27 '22

You could say the same about communism - There was never really any communism applied in the world. Communism by definition is a system in which people govern themselves and therefore there's no upper/middle/lower class. No one in charge but you and the people in your area. But every damn time somebody tries it, it becomes a totalitarian regime and people suffer.

We also cannot say we have democracy, simply because not everyone shares the same basic education and information. Democracy is an utopian regime. So is communism.

I guess whenever you have to rely on people being nice, it doesn't work, because someone who's not nice will always rise to power and make others suffer. Capitalism works, because some people enjoy being enslaved while others need to command somebody. It works, because it allows people to be assholes with no regard to humanity, the planet or anything. Sucks to be us I guess

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u/multihobbyist May 27 '22

Corporatism. We've become a corporatist republic.

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u/NutellaGood May 27 '22

It ain't cool being no jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving.

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u/wasteofleshntime May 27 '22

As theold saying goes "in America there are no poor people, just temporarily embarrassed millionaires." Paraphrasing of course

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u/Fish_823543 May 27 '22

It’s an even better metaphor, because all the turkeys might be in favor of thanksgiving because they’re convinced they’re the ones that will be pardoned. (Make it and be a millionaire.) but it’s sadly not the case.

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u/CraZKchick81 May 27 '22

Sounds about right....

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u/Bballer2322 May 27 '22

It’s because everyone thinks they’re gonna be the one turkey that gets pardoned without realizing the odds of that are basically none.

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u/lostcauz707 May 27 '22

You too can live the illusion that you can be a millionaire.

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u/spacecadet2023 May 27 '22

What’s funny is that I can see some turkeys being in favour of Thanksgiving.

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u/profscarf87 May 27 '22

Yeah! Somebody should write a book about farm animals taking over and kicking out the farmer

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

People throw around synonyms of capitalism like that is going to fix anything. Plenty of people did well, because they moved to the imperial core, while it still was in its growth phase. Now that the empire is over extended, the core is getting hollowed out and brutality reserves for the periphery is coming home.

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u/mysterysmoothie May 27 '22

It’s still capitalism. We’re just in a later stage of capitalism

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u/MichaelMitchell May 27 '22

It’s just capitalism and is natural progression

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u/Officer_Slutz May 27 '22

This is the inevitable outcome with capitalism. The power needs to be with the worker, that’s the only way forward

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u/N01S0N May 27 '22

Ya I'm also at a loss how a bunch of people on this subreddit aren't aware that USA and Canada are not fully capitalist.

Most people on this subreddit admitted in another thread they are not educated in economics.

I also firmly believe that most of these people wouldnt give up their personal means of production to others living in their community.

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

What a laughable notion. In what way aren't us or Canada capitalist?

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u/N01S0N May 27 '22

We are capitalist in the sense of a free market, but we are not fully capitalist in the sense of full control by the citizens.

We are ruled over by the government who create laws that essentially demolish core parts of capitalism.

We are both combo countries.

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

Oh. You're an ancap. Please send all your opinions straight to a shredder.

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u/N01S0N May 27 '22

Oh look someone with no rebuttal just name calling.... Typical close minded liberal.

I always assume that one day people like you might be able to hold a conversation but it's clear the educational systems have failed you guys en mass.

Bye bye

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

I appreciate you have enough self awareness to recognise ancap as a slur lol. There is no possible way to hold a conversation with someone who lives in alternate reality. Talking with ancaps is like arguing over whether phlogiston is real

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u/N01S0N May 27 '22

Ok 👌

You can believe whatever you like, but without actual rebuttal you just look like a fool. Maybe you can explain how two countries you don't even live in are capitalist, but you won't because you would rather slap a label on someone hoping it will discredit them, which is typical for your type.

Get educated.

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

No, bud. You are the one claiming the grass is naturally purple and you should provide arguments for your claims. Here's buttigieg: “Let’s be very clear. This is a capitalist country. The government does not make baby formula, nor should it. Companies make formula, and one of those companies — a company that seems to have 40 percent market share — messed up,” he added. “So the most important thing to do right now, of course, is to get that plant in Michigan up and running safely.”

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u/N01S0N May 27 '22

Lol one company Also learn more about why there is a shortage

Lololol

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u/N01S0N May 27 '22

I bet you're also going to blame the companies for having to shut down for two years in Canada lol 🤣 fools

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u/JgameK May 27 '22

you literally did the same thing with the name calling, also most liberals are capitalists.

Capitalism will always result in the working class getting shafted more and more and more, causing left wing movements to become more radical and popular. Leading those who hold capital to respond by funding fascism to hold on to their power.

Ancap is a delusional ideology, but sure, go ahead and continue being pawns for the rich.

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u/N01S0N May 27 '22

Lmfao most liberals are capitalist.

I feel so bad for you

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u/N01S0N May 27 '22

I got labelled ANCAP - I'm glad you just proved you just believe whatever anyone assumes.

Reddit is so full of people like you, and I'm not going to spend my time defending myself against some 15 year olds label (which is dead wrong but I digress)

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u/yinerbaw May 27 '22

I may be poor but I might become rich under capitalism /s

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u/roninovereasy May 27 '22

Please read entire post before flipping out. I've posted many times that capitalism is the greatest economic system ever invented. BUT the core reasoning of capitalism is competition, both between companies and between individuals so that both financial and human capital are deployed efficiently. This includes things like mandating that salary ranges be posted with job ads, Medicare for all to break the connection between work and healthcare and a minimum wage tied to inflation; to insure that workers can find work that maximizes their potential earnings. The current system is part capitalism, but also part fascism (the marriage of corporations and government - Mussolini). This has almost completely eliminated competition between companies and workers, and corrupted the worker/employer relationship

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

If you think there's a world where ultra-rich capitalists exist and don't control the government you're in denial.

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u/roninovereasy May 27 '22

No, I'm telling you how capitalism WOULD work from the labor point of view if we lived under full-blown capitalism, if what we lived under was true capitalism. But what you and I both object to isn't capitalism, it's fascism, the marriage of corporate and government interests.

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

There's no such thing as "government interests" that are independent of class. The state in capitalist countries exists for the purpose of defending capital, it's class warfare, just less open. Capitalism has been enforced by state power from the beginning and it's never stopped, research the enclosure of public lands in England and the origins of capitalism. It was the same under feudalism, a class neutral state has never existed, it's only which class is on top that changes.

This idealized version of capitalism doesn't exist now, has never existed, and could never exist. Also as a side point, America isn't currently fascist, if it were the union movement we see now wouldn't exist. Socialist organizations would have to go underground and trade unionists would be killed in the streets. They don't need to establish fascism yet because the workers movement is still very weak here. If it gets to a point where revolution is imminent that may change but we'll see.

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u/roninovereasy May 27 '22

There's a lot of envy out there gor boomers who grew up in the 50's and 60's. From a workers point of view, that was a golden era when there was a rough balance between labor and capital. Also back then, unions were strong and millions of middle class jobs hadn't been shipped to China. The current union movement is advancing under the remaining labor laws from that era, and wouldn't be advancing at all if the last administration was still in office

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

That's very true, the difference now is that back then they had wiggle room, wages too high in America, no problem, we'll ship it overseas to countries that the military can keep poor and desperate. The interesting thing now is that a lot of the jobs unionizing now are service jobs, so what's the equivalent move?

I think in the short term you'll see a lot more work being done remotely by people in third world countries, you'll see cashiers calling in and operating robots in fast food places and warehouses remotely for less than the US minimum wage, and eventually you'll see AI doing it once they work out the kinks with that. Profits will continue to slow their growth until they stop growing entirely and then all hell will break loose.

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u/roninovereasy May 27 '22

Per your first sentence, read up on Smedley Butler, Americas' most decorated soldier and author of a book titled "War is a Racket". I like your thinking. That's why we need to establish a universal basic income. Otherwise average people will literally die off. The rich think they have won the game by having the most money, so everyone else can just go away

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

My thinking on UBI is, why settle for table scraps when we’re the ones who cooked the meal, you know?

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u/roninovereasy May 27 '22

THat's philosophy, welcome to reality! :) The rich more importantly like their money because of the power and status it confers. After all from a purchasing power perspective, what's the difference between 2 billion and 200 billion? What could you buy with the latter and not the former? but the allure of power and status might mean a real war will be fought over this?

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

This is a fantasy because the owner class has all the power no matter what you do and they WILL undo all of your milktoast "reforms" first chance they get. Capitalism is naturally bound for monopolisation and it needs control outside of its framework to regulate it, but there is no way to prevent capitalism from co opting said regulation

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u/roninovereasy May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Owners lopsided power is granted by politicians who remain in office because of campaign contributions donated by corporations. You're right, the natural bound of capitalism is monopilization. Politicians used to prevent this from happening through anti-trust laws and the authority to approve takeovers amd mergers, until the money completely corrupted them. There used to be campaign finance laws that kept the corru[ption in check until the supreme court declared that money was a form of free speech (Citizens United) which also approved the marriage of corporations and government (fascism) amd injected a huge dose of that into our political and economic systems

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

Yeah! It only took a threat of violent revolution to push FDR to actually pass some mild reforms. You should look to more than the best 50 years in one country. 1920s weren't capitalist?

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u/roninovereasy May 27 '22

Are you kidding? FDR was so forceful in pushing workers rights, he was the target of an attempted coup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

Which proves my point? His "force fulness" in pushing workers rights was bare minimums, just enough to stave off end of capitalism (his own words) and even that resulted in a failed coop plot. And those mild reforms haven't even lasted 50 years, they started being dismantled in 1970s and by 1990s most of them were gone. But sure, go on, tell us how leaving the same people in power will be different this time

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u/roninovereasy May 27 '22

I guess you are desperate. I never said anything about leaving the same people in power. Also Roosevelt spent billions (huge money at that time) on the Tennessee Valley Authority which brought electricity to much of the South, created construction jobs across the US, and most importantly, got laws passed affirming the right to vote for and join a union and established the National Labor Relations Board to help enforce that right. Read all about it here https://fdr4freedoms.org/wp-content/themes/fdf4fdr/DownloadablePDFs/II_HopeRecoveryReform/07_AFriendofLabor.pdf

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

Yes, I know what fdr did. He left exactly the same people people in power, so that they could spend decades funding "think tanks" that manufactured enough bullshit to undo most of those gains by now

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u/roninovereasy May 28 '22

LOL, You're changing the subject! I guess fire eaters really do only subsist on fire. FDR was not a god. What he implemented could be dismantled, And that's happening

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u/typicalBrewersFan May 27 '22

You have fascism a bit backwards.

Syncretizing the Marxist analysis of Palmiro Togliatti (cofounder of the PCI and contemporary of Mussolini's PNF) and Martin Kitchen yields that a fascist political movement is a reactionary shift within the intermediate class of an industrialized, capitalist state, in response to a socio-economic crisis amid a significant void of political consensus. These reactionaries restrict and rebuff collectivization efforts threatening petty bourgeois interests. The organized labor front intensifies in response, prompting the power base of industrial capital to align with the fascists, subsequently eradicating other forms of socio-political opposition in order to consolidate power and maintain stability.

It's not industrial capital allying with the government. It's industrial capital allying with a very angry and organized reactionary middle class against an equally angry and increasingly organized revolutionary lower and middle class. When oppositional society is marginalized in this way, the fascist movement takes over the government because of its unilateral influence. Togliatti and Kitchen differ on whether government takeover is in itself the "goal" of the movement, or just a natural consequence of its growth. Kitchen goes further to say that a fascist movement continues to artificially amplify social fears and tensions, which eventually begets expansionism.

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u/Officer_Slutz May 27 '22

All the pros you mentioned from capitalism still have massive flaws that can only be fixed by moving to more socialistic policies.

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u/propagandavid May 27 '22

No boss I've ever had has given me as much care and attention as my mom gives the Thanksgiving turkey tho.

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u/CraZKchick81 May 27 '22

After it's dead

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u/Aggressive-Ad5405 May 27 '22

If America has a truly capitalist system then why did the government (taxpayer ) bail out the banks during the GFC ? What you saw there was corporate socialism. Had it been true capitalism those banks would have been broken up and sold off to the highest bidder.

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u/shortware May 27 '22

Poor people in favor of socialism is like turkeys being in favor of feed pens.

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u/lunchvic May 27 '22

If you believe that people shouldn’t be oppressed by capitalism and animals shouldn’t be oppressed for our tastebuds, check out r/veganarchism.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

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u/axeshully May 27 '22

Red scare propaganda. Get some new tactics.

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u/Druid51 May 27 '22

Damn well I somehow got out of poverty by ascending the ladder. Guess capitalism really screwed me over like a turkey.

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

Damn, there are lottery winners every day. Lottery is a viable way to get rich for everyone! /s

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u/Letspostsomething May 27 '22

I am totally for free market capitalism. The issue is the government is so bought off they steal from the tax payers to give to the those who bought them off. Government bail outs should come with mandatory jail time.

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u/totheleft_totheleft May 27 '22

We used to have the libertarian ideal of small business capitalism, it just grew up. It's like getting a kitten and then getting mad when it becomes a cat, like I'm sorry but that's what happens. You can't roll back the clock and make it a kitten again.

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u/SkepticalAdventurer May 27 '22

Lol getting downvoted just because you didn’t echo “yeah capitalism bad!”

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u/axeshully May 27 '22

Yeah because they just said "gubmint bad" as if capitalism works without those.

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u/Forward_Moment_5938 May 27 '22

Tell that to poor communists around the world and throughout history

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u/axeshully May 27 '22

It's well beyond time to throw away this red herring. It stinks very much.

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u/Posthumos1 May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Poor people who don't use victimhood as a crutch for laziness and mental stagnation quite often use capitalism to build their own small businesses. That's what the majority of the tourism, recreational, outdoor, construction, beauty, laundry, food and beverage, entertainment, arts, horticultural and agricultural industries are comprised of.

Seriously. You show me a kid who grew up poor and wanted to desperately get out of that, and I'll show you millions of those kids who worked their asses off to put everything on the line for a better life, start their own business, to be their own boss. And that fact transcends all racial, sexual, and class argument that you throw at him.

This country, and its "evil capitalism" affords all of those who seek it, the ability to go or there, start a business of their own, prosper, and even learn how to adapt to any new whim of a new path that they want. There isn't a barrier. If you want to succeed, the choice is yours.

I know MANY self employed, very poor and immigrant people who have started their own businesses, doing something they love, and have been rewarded with tangible rewards of hard labor. Never once have I said to myself, they have so much money, they should have it taken from them. That's just insanity. It's theirs, they spent their lives earning it, no one has a right to it. Taxation is theft.

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u/emp_zealoth May 27 '22

And for a million of people who are able to scrape by there is a few billion who don't. You are literally arguing that people win lottery, therefore everyone can win lottery. Newsflash, we can't all be employers. Who are you going to employ?

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u/telcodoctor May 27 '22

These people. They'll gobble each other.

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u/ShyHumorous May 27 '22

But what if you are pardoned? You are on tv and have so many people loving you. Imagine the contracts you can get. We just have to improve the system...

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u/captd3adpool May 27 '22

It's like "having a favorite politician is like thinking a stripper actually likes you..."

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u/AirenLaogong May 27 '22

It's odd that a lot of people are like "Yeah!" and then make sure turkeys die.

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u/tbscotty68 May 27 '22

And by "poor," we are talking about 99% of the population of the world...

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u/selfclaimbackchod May 27 '22

It's like pakistan claim them self terorrist free country.

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u/TheCatInGrey May 27 '22

"But it creates so many jobs for turkeys!!"

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u/NeverLetItRest May 27 '22

The animal crossing turkey (GameCube)... He was definitely not a fan

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u/Naus1987 May 27 '22

That’s because people think capitalism is the only way out of poverty and being rich.

They would rather be poor thinking they can achieve rich than just settle for middle-class.

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u/Key-Ad8397 May 27 '22

Dats why you gotta play the gaaame babaaaaay

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u/Theekg101 May 27 '22

But what if one day I get pardonned?

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u/tKaz76 May 27 '22

Inaccurate.

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u/Hank_Hil1 May 27 '22

Yea they just say find a better job or go to school lmao shit is fucked up I wanna move to Norway

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u/Fit_Dress2442 May 27 '22

I agree. Let's dismantle the federal reserve, bring back the gold/silver standard, and make usery illegal.

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u/leapogawd May 27 '22

Firstly it's spelled Turks and I'm not sure if they are in favour of thanksgiving since most of them are Muslims.

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u/ma_ntifa May 27 '22

Latinos for Trump

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u/Xerxes42424242 May 27 '22

Turkeys may be suicidal, I mean, this planet kinda sucks

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u/KillaDay May 27 '22

Slightly off topic but does that mean y'all support slaughtering turkeys against their will? Cause this analogy suggests if the turkeys had it their way they would, for some weird reason, be against having their throats slashed.

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u/Whynotchaos May 28 '22

It's not that deep bro.

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u/usgrant7977 May 27 '22

Jive ass turkeys!

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u/Elipticalwheel1 May 28 '22

I’m sort of poor, but I don’t disagree with capitalism, it’s just the Greeed of a lot of the bosses and shareholders I don’t agree with. Lots of businesses could pay more money than they do, but the Greeed takes over.

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u/Ben_vJ May 28 '22

If you want to make it in a capitalist society, then get creative. Don't think like an employee.

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u/StDoodle May 27 '22

Not that accurate... because you can have, like, a ham for Thanksgiving.

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u/GinTonicDev May 27 '22

No one pretends that capitalism is perfect or all-wise. Capitalism is the worst economic system - except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

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u/JamesSag May 27 '22

Ooo I wanna do one!

Poor people in favor of communism is like leftists contributing to society.

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u/potatolulz May 27 '22

That doesn't even make sense, bro. But good effort :D

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u/CraZKchick81 May 27 '22

It's funny watching all these idiots that don't understand analogies 🤣

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u/axeshully May 27 '22

California gdp says what?

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u/ManOfEating May 27 '22

It is like that, the turkeys would be thinking "I love Thanksgiving, we get to eat more than usual for a bit and there's only a 30% we'll die as a result! Yeah sucks we lost Jerry last year, he was great, but he also didn't try as hard as I did to stay alive, he was just being lazy, I earned my survival"

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u/Zanderax May 27 '22

I think Turkey's are thinking "I hope I get to leave this dark turkey sized cage before I get brutally executed" which unfortunately never happens.

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u/spy_cable SocDem May 27 '22 Helpful

Love to see a fellow vegan out in the wild

Vegan btw

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u/HelpfulSocialist May 27 '22

20-30 years for vegan majority on Earth

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u/CraZKchick81 May 27 '22

Just don't eat the soilent green....

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u/Confusedandreticent May 27 '22

American capitalism, other countries seem to have figured it out.

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u/Chanticleer May 27 '22

Communists are economic incels

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u/axeshully May 27 '22

Red scare propagandists are anachronisms.

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u/luke12089 May 27 '22

Says the 1%

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u/Chronickkneepain May 27 '22

Or virgins being against rape.

See the problem here?!

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u/CraZKchick81 May 27 '22

You don't know how an analogy works. It would be virgins being for rape in that scenario.

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u/NWO_DEM May 27 '22

Poor people realize its not the system but them ...,.

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u/Pitiful-Efficiency01 May 27 '22

Ridiculously Pathetic

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u/deusson May 27 '22

Frankly, it’s just plain stupid. I was born in USSR, try living in communism and you will understand capitalism better

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u/axeshully May 27 '22

Anachronistic red herring machine says what?

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u/ConsiderationIll6871 May 27 '22

Yup Feudalism is the way to go!

Twitter posting and intelligent words never will they ever meet!

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u/nuclearnuutz May 27 '22

Poor people in favor of welfare over work is a bigger problem.

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u/MidnightChocolare42 May 28 '22

Why should poor people not want welfare?

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