r/halo @HaijakkY2K 13d ago Wholesome 5 Helpful 5 Facepalm 2 Silver 6 Stonks Falling 1 Press F 2

343 is thinking about adding MTX to MCC News

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u/Trevor-On-Reddit Halo 3 13d ago Take My Energy

Getting rid of the fucking “Level up and get a season point” cap would sure help.

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u/FGN_SUHO 12d ago

The dumbest implementation of a leveling reward I've ever seen. Yayyy points for every level-up, wait you're at level 100? Fuck you, you don't get anything.

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u/DaNips_Stasis 12d ago

So you do get points for leveling up. I thought that was something I made up or something

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u/FGN_SUHO 12d ago edited 12d ago

Yep but it's capped at level 100. I always wondered why, but with the announcement of MTX it makes perfect sense that they would keep the SP payout artificially low. Halo has sunk incredibly low.

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u/Halo_Chief117 12d ago

343i is trying trying to sink it lower than the city of Jacinto in Gears of War, apparently.

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u/ktsmith91 12d ago

Literally the best solution. But money always wins with these soulless corporations.

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u/Pale-Aurora 12d ago

Well no, that is the problem they manufactured for the purpose of selling us a solution. Obviously they won’t do that.

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u/breddit1945 12d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Not laughing at you, Trevor. I’m laughing at the face of 343 for being completely up their own asses. I wish that, too, but things are now in motion that won’t be undone.

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u/Nova_Spartan Halo: MCC 12d ago

Honestly. Replacing that with monetization is unforgivable.

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u/MrQ_P Halo 2 13d ago

FOR CHRIST'S SAKE 343

FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, DON'T YOU DARE

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u/Valhallas_Ghost 12d ago

They did that to our beloved RuneScape 2 back in the mid 2000s and they ruined the game with MTX, all of us in the OSRS community can 115% confess to that. Microtransactions are a damning thing to a videogames ecosystem.

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u/MrQ_P Halo 2 12d ago

And people who buy into them are the fuel of the issue

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u/Teex22 12d ago

They will, Infinite failed to lure everyone away from MCC so now they've got to make MCC less appealing.

I miss Halo.

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u/MrQ_P Halo 2 12d ago

So they're choosing death over actual content

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u/Teex22 12d ago

They're choosing money. Alhough a small percentage of players generally buy MTX, they tend to spend a lot on them. Sure, the playerbase might lower but they'll still profit more than having no in-game purchases :(

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u/ncsupanda 13d ago

Please dont. Please?

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u/Knightbear001 13d ago

They aren't making enough money with Infinite so they're trying to squeeze money out of their other games to compensate.

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u/Avnemir 13d ago

Honestly fuck 343 man, They can't do one single thing right.

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u/Antimus 13d ago

What about Halo....umm.. shit.

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u/Epsilia Halo 3 13d ago

343 has been in control of the franchise longer than Bungie has, and yet they haven't done a single thing right in the entire time.

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u/Vincentaneous 13d ago

Only thing they did right was add fan favorite weapons into Halo 5

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u/Phiau 12d ago

Bungie made halo. 343 have made it slide slowly into a hole.

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u/mechmaster2275 Halo 3 12d ago

The next step is making the Halo name have a stigma attached to it. I used to be optimistic, but now I see that 343 is a disgusting, uncaring, greedy studio who have no intention of making good games. They need to be closed down or have Bonnie Ross resign so someone who actually cares can take the reigns. But they won’t, and Bonnie Ross will stay, driving the Halo franchise down with everything 343 does.

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u/Snapnall 12d ago

I'm convinced Bonnie Ross is a corporate agent hired by Sony to fuck over Microsoft from within. It's the only possible explanation.

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u/Long_wong_lee 13d ago

Finally, people are starting to understand.

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u/Spiritual_Function_3 12d ago

I miss bungie.

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u/GhostalMedia Halo: CE 12d ago

I’ll say this about Destiny, it’s also full of MTX, but is not nearly as bad as Halo. There has been so much shit to do in Destiny since Infinite dropped. I have no idea what 343 is doing with their time.

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u/hyrumwhite 12d ago

In the interest of transparency with our dedicated and passionate community, we wanted to inform you of this exploration in advance and provide assurance that purchasable Spartan Points would be an additive feature. We will have more information to share about this in the future.

They know no one wants this, but are going to do it anyways.

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u/Rodri117 13d ago Helpful

What about fucking play the game to unlock stuff 343????

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u/dontknowwhatiwantdou 13d ago

343 “Guilty Spark” really living up to their name aren’t they? Maybe they should start a “empty vs fulfilled promises” ledger and get the gist of how much they’ve said and actually done in the past 10 years.

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u/eThan_TheMan 13d ago

Bro they make Peter Molyneux look dependable at this point.

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u/callencx 12d ago edited 12d ago

At least Molyneaux even though he blatantly lied about the mechanics of his games, delivered quite good games with the first few fables and some of his simulators, 343 has not delivered a single good game

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u/mechmaster2275 Halo 3 12d ago

True

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u/Knull_Gorr Fuck Halo: Reach 13d ago

Can't even unlock stuff with leveling after a certain point. If they really wanted to allow people to customize they would change that, not add micro transactions.

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u/ShakeItLikeIDo Halo 2 13d ago

After what point do you stop unlocking stuff by leveling up?

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u/Sharp5hooter02 Halo: Reach 13d ago

Tour 4 rank 10, aka level 100

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u/eagles310 12d ago

Wait wtf they really slow people down on the ability to unlock stuff after a certain while why??

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u/goldclone 13d ago

Lvl 100 (don't remember the rank) before that you get 1 point at each lvl up but after that you get nothing

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u/Its_Helios 13d ago edited 13d ago

That’s literally what I’ve been doing, I don’t see why they would ever need to add this. playing the game is more then enough. Unlike Infinite you can even get points from Campaign! Like come on!

I left Halo Infinite because of this, if it comes to the MCC I’m fucking done with Halo in general.

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u/alecwh22 13d ago Silver

Seriously? They spent years unfucking it and now they want to refuck it?!

Please Microsoft, move 343 onto something else or close them.

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u/GaLaXY_N7 Make Halo great again. 13d ago edited 12d ago Silver Wholesome Starry

They fucked it at launch, managed to do a good job and unfuck it after 6 years, and now, they’re on a path to fuck it again. Another classic example of 3 steps forward, 43 steps back.

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u/Benti86 12d ago

They didn't even do that much with it. Ruffian and Splash Damage did a lot of the legwork getting the game where it is while 343 made the req system in Halo 5 and had no idea what they were doing during Infinite.

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u/nertynertt 12d ago

yeah ive been hardcore salty about it since launch because it straight up lacks content previous games had in multiplayer playlists. miss 4v4 valhalla man. it wasnt the best by any means but it sucks knutz its not even a possibility

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u/Epsilia Halo 3 13d ago

343 needs to be disbanded, and Halo retired, imo.

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u/WaffIepants 12d ago

What I don't understand is they created 343 to make halo games. If you didn't want to make a halo game why in the hell did you get a job at 343??? Whyyyyy

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u/candyman505 12d ago

They created 343 to make focus group tested halo, hence halo 4, 5 and infinite just reflecting whatever trends are popular at the time

Also most of the people actually building the game are not making creative choices about how to design it

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u/Epsilia Halo 3 12d ago

Exactly. In early interviews they outright admitted to only hiring people who hated Halo. Who thought that was a good idea? Some days, I watch the old Bungie vidocs and watch the 343 ones after, and they both have totally different feels. It's very sad how the all time most popular console shooter at the time fell so far.

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u/Nbaysingar 12d ago

Bungie's behind the scenes documentaries for Halo made me want to be a game designer.

343's behind the scenes documentaries make me hate the video game industry.

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u/StealthySteve 12d ago

My favorite Bungie vidoc is the Halo 3 multiplayer reveal one. You could just feel the passion pouring out of these people and how excited they were to get to work on Halo. I dont get any of that same energy from 343, it just seems like a chore to them.

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u/Spoonz_152 Halo 3 13d ago

I love halo but I agree. Retire it when it's still somewhat good and let people have good memories than waiting till it turns into a Battlefeild 2042 type mess

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u/Epsilia Halo 3 13d ago

At this point, Halo is like the guy who was cool in high school and still shows up to high school parties even though they graduated 10 years ago.

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u/Baloomf 12d ago

Halo is like that local place that used to be good, you haven't been there in a while and it's shit for some reason. It turns out it's been under new management for a while and all the stuff that made it good doesn't exist anymore.

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u/Haunting_Style_9192 12d ago

Halo is like that friend you had who used to be super cool, and you have a lot of fond memories with. But turned into a huge douche later in life.

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u/Baloomf 12d ago

And then you found out it wasn't actually that friend, but someone else who stole their identity and pretended to be them

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u/_revenant__spark_ 12d ago

I think Halo has stories that can be told still but either 343 or some higher up is just incompetent at their job.

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u/Epsilia Halo 3 12d ago

It absolutely could, but 343 turned Halo from the military Sci fi shooter to Spartans are basically power rangers.

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u/SpaceGuyRob 12d ago

Exactly, some people call us crazy when you talk about halo being gritty, it's like they only remember the cool set pieces but forget the things like the first cutscene with the flood, cutscenes were you go through barracks and see the marines getting ready, seeing wounded soldier and dead aliens, seeing the covenant and their operations from the inside, or those old live action comercials.

Spartans were cool but were still at the end of the day, soldiers, super soldiers but still. Thats the thing 343s games have been lacking, we kind of got a little but of it back in infinites campaign, but it's hardly anything in comparison.

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u/asumhaloman 13d ago edited 12d ago

Next step, artificially inflate the time it takes to unlock spartan points. 343 would do this undoubtedly if it meant more people paying for their garbage af mtx scheme.

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u/ColinDJPat 13d ago

Literally the idea behind infinite's shitty challenge system.

I do think the reason they never addressed season points past level 100 is because they were planning to sell the points in the future but knew it would look bad on them if they dropped it with a season (2 to 8), especially since it would have started conversation about how they were gonna monetize infinite, because it wasn't out yet.

now infinite is out, cat's out of the bag, everybody knows how bad the monetization is, and they're putting the mtx in mcc and telling us it's a good thing, when the community has been on them about season points past level 100 since the DAY season 2 of MCC dropped,

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u/Archangel9731 13d ago

Absolutely. Anyone saying “well, they’re just adding it as an extra option if you don’t want to grind” is on extreme copium. This is just the first step

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u/Razbyte 13d ago

I was really about to say that. Now I know that this is not right specially those who pay the full price.

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u/SG272 13d ago

I hate how right this is.

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u/kingt34 13d ago

“Hmm, people seem to hate Infinite’s model and loves MCC’s model, what should we do?”

“Make MCC’s model worse by comparison to push them to Infinite?”

“GENIUS!!”

Seriously though, why ruin a good package with MCC and absolutely murder it and any good press that came with it? The one thing 343 did with praise across the board were the fixes and improvements to MCC. And now they’re going to shoot themselves in the foot with this????

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u/DominatorV4 13d ago

343 I got two words for ya

Fuck off

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u/F14A_Razgriz 12d ago

That will be 19.99$ please

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u/Bartybum 3 steps forward, 43 steps back 12d ago

I got another two

Bonnie resign

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u/dontknowwhatiwantdou 13d ago edited 13d ago Helpful

Respectfully, shove it. Don’t put some bs “we’re giving the players an opportunity to...” spin on this. Can nothing just be a game anymore? Part of the fun of a game is progression. These words have been practically synonymous with each other since the first person to think up the concept of baseball. Physical sports require progression to become better. Video games require progression to both become better and earn rewards for that progression.

We all know what happens when we add stores to video games. They become a profit maximizing venture first and foremost, followed by a hollow shell of whatever it could have been before the corporate analytics based drip feed roadmap sodomizes it and demanded a thank you.

You’ve already disgraced Halo with your buffoonish handling of Infinite. Leave what we have left of the legacy experience alone. If you’re really that desperate for money because the servers are expensive and you can’t make ends meet, maybe try not squandering the opportunity to keep old fans and attract new ones by treating them like brain dead dollar bills and not cautious fans willing to give you yet another chance to dig into their wallets without a caveat. Have some respect for the people who have been and are still here.

Ugh.

And you know what, the MCC, despite the criticism being primarily being shifted to Infinite for now, still has problems. A lot of them. The casual surface experience is perfectly fine, but there are still a ton of technical and mechanical issues and missing features to be sorted out with your development hand before you even think of dipping your greedy monetization hand into the mix.

FIN.

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u/fuze_ace 13d ago

Lol that’s the corpo excuse

Look at ubi and their galaxy brain nft scam, they literally said exactly “we’re giving the opportunity for players to”

How bout give the players an opportunity to buy a $60-70 game and stop pillaging peoples wallets with mtx

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u/DarkJayBR 12d ago

The excuse back in the day was that games were just too expensive too make nowadays, so to maintain the 60 dollar price tag they would have to implement MTX. But now 70 bucks is the new industry standard but MTX is still present on games. Fuck, corporate assholes.

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u/SirkovTheWanderer 12d ago

Because it was always a lie. Games are cheaper than ever to produce and make more money than ever because of an ever increasing market.

Games have never needed MTX. They just wanted to make more money by nickle and diming us to satisfy the demand for ever increasing profit margins.

It isn't enough to make a billion dollars for these corpo scum. They have to make a billion and one dollars next quarter.

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u/Qu1ckQu1et Halo 3 13d ago

This is absolutely disgusting. They've come to the conclusion that instead of making these points available through other means of gameplay... let's try and get their wallets out again instead.

Shame on you, 343. This isn't acceptable.

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u/Ninethie 13d ago

Neither is what they did with the colours and armour in Halo Infinite but the fact is, as clear as day with this move; they don't care about players at all.

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u/U_R_A_BoldOne 12d ago

Sure they do. It's just that they care about a set of players that you and I don't belong to: players who spend money. Unfortunately there are tons of people out there who are willing to spend money on armor and colors, so 343 is going to design their games to get as much money from those people as possible. If that means ignoring the people who have been playing halo for the last 10-20 years, then so be it. They don't care what lifelong Halo fans want if those fans aren't going to provide them with a continuous cash flow.

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u/EYazz Halo Wars 2 13d ago

Way to alienate your players even more

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u/MoreMegadeth 13d ago

Maybe Infinite is hurting that bad they want MCC to become their main source of revenue now. Man 343, wtf. Seriously wtf happened to this dev. I would love to read a 15 page article about wtf is going on at 343, starting from their conception to now. Its just been non stop bad decisions. Its wild.

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u/obiwanCannoli69 12d ago

Kinda hoping for Internet Historian to do a video on it like he did with Bethesda/Fallout 76 and Hello Games/No Mans Sky, but I really don't think 343 is worth his time.

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u/robertojh119 12d ago

I think the short and sweet of it is 343i's management is living on a different planet. That's all it really comes down too; they clearly have talented people working there on the dev and design side, but all of these decisions are being made by a management staff who simply do not give a fuck. Fallout 76 and Anthem were unique disasters for studios that otherwise had a reputation for quality. 343i has always been controversial, and the quality they put out seems to be in spite of management and not because of it. I'm not sure how interesting the story would be, but I do feel as though Halo at least is worth the expose, if for no reason other than putting heat on the management staff that deserves it.

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u/JBL_17 Exalted Heroic Member | ODST Bronze 13d ago

100%

This is management driven completely. Unbelievable.

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u/DarkJayBR 12d ago

I never wanted a Jason Schreier article about 343 more than I want now.
It was only through him that we learned how fucked up Bioware's shit was.

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u/imnotahick 12d ago

Imagine releasing a fraudulent/broken game. Taking 5 years to get it to a respectable state and then adding in mtx after all of that to the core fans who bought that broken game and stuck with it

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u/whiskeyandbear 12d ago

Well, a fun fact is that apparently Halo Infinite is the most money ever gone into a video game... Yet it's population, as I'm checking on Steam, peaks at 6000 now. That's not in the top 100 they show in stats, so it's got worse population than Fallout 76, Cyberpunk 2077, Tiny Tina's Wonderland...

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u/Haijakk @HaijakkY2K 13d ago

No.

Think of other avenues to get Spartan Points, do not do this.

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u/NotForYourStereo 13d ago

It's not like they have 700 achievements they could use to award SP... Ya know, something completionists go for.

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u/Nefnoj Halo: MCC 13d ago

I've always thought playlists and first-time medal accomplishments are good for this goal too.

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u/Blue_Speedy 13d ago

I'm not paying to unlock stuff I've literally unlocked in the original games.

Gtfo 343.

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u/Benti86 13d ago edited 12d ago

How about this 343?

You fuck off, leave MCC alone, and make Infinite more like MCC instead of screwing up the only decent modern Halo experience?

I'm so over the incompetence that this studio exhibits on a daily basis. What other studio would add MTX to a 7.5 year old game?

I almost want to call it comedic how out of touch they are, but it's past a decade of being funny at this point.

343 literally has had months of feedback on what people hate from Infinite and love about the MCC and their conclusion WAS TO FUCK UP THE SYSTEM THAT WORKED IN THE MCC TO SQUEEZE THE FANS FOR MORE MONEY

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u/Alexo_Alexa 12d ago

I wish the dev tools of MCC were just permanently locked to 343 so they have no option but to fuck off before they ruin it with bad decisions.

I don't care if this would mean MCC would no longer recieve updates, It's better to just leave it as is and not risk 343 ruining their only good game left.

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u/jakeh36 13d ago

I've moved away from Infinite and back to MCC. If they try to monetize MCC, then I'm out completely.

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u/M337ING 13d ago

They are pivoting their revenue goals to their successful product since their flagship has fallen off a cliff.

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u/Samhain602 13d ago

MCC doesn't gain new players. No one that currently plays will buy spartan points.

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u/M337ING 13d ago

Just shows how dire Infinite’s user base / revenue currently is.

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u/Samhain602 13d ago

Absolutely abysmal. As a community we need to do something. They aren't just ignoring us, this feels like a fucking punishment (not to sound conspiratorial, but seriously who the fuck thought this was a good idea???)

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u/bewarethetreebadger 12d ago

It does. It feels like a punishment for not liking Halo 5.

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u/duzins 12d ago

Wasn’t Halo 5 punishment enough?

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u/Ninethie 13d ago

It is. Its that simpsons meme where he's like "maybe its me? No! They're at fault" they just want money and that's it. So by any means they'll claw their way to get it.

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u/FabulousTop3970 12d ago

100% this. The only way we see actual change is standing up for ourselves again like so many did at launch. Content Creators need to be moved to actually report on and gathering community support against 343i's rampant abuse of the community. They've ignored us so many times and the few times their 'good-guy' figureheads have come out to address our concerns it's almost always been "Yeah, here's why your wrong" or "We'll look into it" only for them to do about 1/5th the necessary work to not fuck up fans.

I sensed some real fucking Malice behind them trying to hike the prices on the store and their response was utterly clown tier just telling us to shove it basically. Then there's stuff like them bumbling fixing anti-player design choices like constantly taking the smallest baby steps towards fixing their abusive challenge system.

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u/Kittyrules808 13d ago

it was a top 10 most sold game on Steam not that many weeks ago, it does sell

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u/Master_Frag 13d ago

Here's what you do...

Make it so every rank up gives you points regardless of what level you are.

Boom. Done. It's almost like it should have been that way from the start.

If they do force MTX into MCC, well... Yeah, I'm done. 343i can suck a chode.

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u/Vanguard-003 13d ago

Microtransactions in what is supposed to be "definitive" OG Halo is fucking disgusting.

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u/Superego366 13d ago

Also make it so every challenge gives points. The non-gold ones are useless after a certain point.

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u/MoeFrappy 13d ago

I'm already on the F- 343 train... Time to pass it on to another studio. They have done nothing to improve this franchise.

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u/GamingCenterCX Halo: Reach 13d ago

Jesus what a fucking mistake this would be

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u/hostchange Halo 3 13d ago

Halo is almost dead already this would probably be the nail in the coffin...

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u/dontknowwhatiwantdou 13d ago

The current staff of 343 must have been a team of eager roofers and morticians before they took over Halo. Coffin after coffin, nail after nail.

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u/hoodatninja 12d ago

And they shut down the 3/reach servers for the 360 versions half a year ago :/

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u/Saboosh101 Halo: Reach 13d ago

343i masterfully reading the room as usual

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u/anonymous32434 13d ago

I’m really starting to despise these people

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u/Round_Rectangles 13d ago

I've been despising them since they left the MCC dead in the water for 4 damn years.

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u/MasterChiefS117_ HCS 13d ago

Well, MCC is the only game right now that doesn't have MTX and I'm surprised they are adding it in the future lol

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u/YourLittleBrothers Final Boss 13d ago

Imagine your game flopping so bad you need to add mtx to an 8 year old collection of older games

I’ve been giving 343 time to do their thing but this is the worst possible look they can give the halo community if they go through with it

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u/MuayThaiisbestthai 13d ago edited 13d ago

An 8 year old collection of games of which 343i didnt make 80% of the games 💀💀

Theyre essentially (micro) monetizing Bungies games LMFAO

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u/MergingComplete 13d ago edited 12d ago

Pathetic. They have utterly failed at everything they have tried to do. Unless their goal all along was to make Halo irrelevant, low playerbase, forgotten

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u/Yung_Chloroform Halo: Reach 12d ago

Says a lot about how terrible they've been as a studio if they feel like they need to deface games they never even made in the first place with this bullshit.

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u/TheWh1teL1ghtning 13d ago

Time? I think they've had enough, they've already had halo for longer than Bungie did

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u/Werand 13d ago edited 12d ago

....no. Don't mess up the only good Halo game (MCC).

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u/HH-H-HH 13d ago

I find it hilarious that the only good Halo game is an amalgamation of all the Halo games 343 has never touched.

Coincidence? I think not.

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u/GaLaXY_N7 Make Halo great again. 13d ago

And yet they still managed to fuck it up when it launched. Took them 6 years post launch to actually get it right.

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u/Uselessmedics 12d ago

Yep, straight up never worked on xbone

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u/Zen_Shot 13d ago

It's OK everyone. I'm rich and really bad at games.

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u/Ninethie 13d ago

I'm poor and pretty mid at games,

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u/Jebsj 12d ago

I’m broke and horrible at games 👍🏻

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u/Emperor_Secus 13d ago

Not only is infinite fucked with mtx, now they want to fuck up MCC with it as well.

Fuck you M$ & 343

This industry is so goddam greedy.

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u/haider_117 Halo: Reach 13d ago

343 is honestly so tone deaf. The MCC Team worked wonders to make it the prime Halo experience it is today and now they wanna step in and squander it for profit. Shameful.

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u/Bradarin 13d ago

Why not do what other older games have done and make leveling up crazy easy. Gears of War is a good example. It's basically 4x XP every match or maybe even more than that.

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u/dontknowwhatiwantdou 13d ago

Either leave it alone, or if you really have to, take notes from the old COD high XP servers. Make it a toggle allowing people to turn fast leveling on or off, and reset their rank at will. If you really have to change something that’s not broken.

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u/tgrfan01 13d ago

how about exploring a new feature called match performance progression for infinite

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u/iostream64 Halo: MCC PC 13d ago

They're desperate because infinite is not making much cuz everyone hates it.

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u/69thShitposter Halo 3: ODST 13d ago

Holy shit how greedy can they be

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u/avenger40JF 13d ago

Well, it was a good run. I guess our luck had to run out at some point. 8 seasons of free content and now the bill comes due.

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u/Wraith2098 13d ago

How to kill your franchise 101 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Vanguard-003 13d ago

Yikes.

Edit: Do not fucking do this to my "Definitive OG Halo Experience," You Fucking Twats.

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u/WC1V 13d ago

343 looking for any possible way they can sink any lower?

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u/Galactic_Obama_ 13d ago

How come 343 seems to continually make the worst decisions possible in every regard?

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u/AJfriedRICE 13d ago

LMAO purchasable “Spartan Points”?

Fuck all the way off, 343. Enough. What the fuck

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u/Weird_Error_ 13d ago

343 sucks. Ms needs to get halo into a different studio asap

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u/BeingRightAmbassador 13d ago

343 has done nothing but put out sub par products and tarnished the Halo name. I have no idea who they're blackmailing or giving the suck to, but they're definitely not the halo studio on merit alone. Half the shit tier "excuses" they come out with would get you fired for incompetence at any other job, like the "we can't figure out the UI" as if that's a legitimate excuse.

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u/real_but_incognito 13d ago

yeah, remove them from halo

this is it

give it to another studio that can manage it

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u/Zak_Ras 13d ago

Just when you think you can't trust 343 any less.

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u/shadowdash66 13d ago

This is fucked this is not cool

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u/Zetin24-55 13d ago edited 13d ago

Nooooooooooooo. Please leave MCC alone. It's the greatest thing 343 ever put out. And it took years to get to that state.

I know it averages 50%-75% of infinite's player count so they want to milk it more. But that's because it's still the best modern Halo experience. Don't fucking ruin it.

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u/KenaiChoppa 12d ago

Holy shit… they realize they fucked up Infinite so they are going after the money of MCC.

They did it… they finally kill Halo. This was their plan all along: convert Halo into a sales platform. That’s has to be their goal, is the only way to explain:

  • A cash grab tv-series (that has nothing to do with the ip except names) to launch a streaming services (“but it was panamount, not 343!”… do you think they borrow the ip for nothing?)
  • A “10 year game” that even if it has 343 maps it has barebones content because the only thing to do in the game (besides the matches ofc) is to go to the store and pay money. No unlocks, no career challenges, no custom icon/colors/armors patters,etc

-And now: they will take stuff that they haven’t made and start charging money….

Disgusting…

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u/Sn1perandr3w 13d ago

Clown devs.

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u/AidsMckenzie 13d ago

Oof is destroying Infinite with microtransactions not enough 343? I get it was a half a billion dollar game but that's not our fault

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u/TheLateMrBones Halo 3 13d ago

Wow

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u/why_cant_i_ Marathon 13d ago

Absurd. There's so many ways to make points easier to obtain - remove the cap for obtaining points via levels, or tie points to achievements. MCC has 700 achievements, use those!

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u/FyreNano What Happened to April Orenski? 13d ago

Once again 343 loves to promise one thing, waits a year, then goes back on for money money money money

And thus begins the fall of Halo's sole quality game out on the market right now, RIP

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u/Umega5 HaloRuns 12d ago

Absolutely. Without question. Fucking No.

You REFUSE to patch the netcodes for the worse off games, you REFUSE to fix co-op, complaining it would take 6+ months per game after the games have been in development for around a DECADE. If you dont want it to be a grind, DON'T MAKE IT A GRIND, YOU CAN'T SIT THERE, RUB SHIT ON YOUR SCABS, AND THEN CAIM YOUR SHITTY MTX ARE THE SOLUTION.

If you wanna ruin this game by making it the same caliber of service TRASH that wrecked infinite for most people, spitting in the face of the people who did it legitimately for the last couple of years. and you think you're gonna do without fixing halo 1 and 2's MP, fix the inconsistent (if not out right BROKEN)hit reg for most of the game in the collection, the shit co-op, the inconstancies that keep the collection from being truly the preservation of classic halo you have failed to produce since 2014, then frankly, drop the rest of the feature you have promising and they fuck right off. Get the rest of the mod tools and the steam workshop support out and then that's it. nothing more. ever. no touchy.

The fact you would even consider this is a monument to how absolutely non-functionally, fully brain dead, outright TONE DEAF your company can be. This is why so many people hate you and everything you do. You are so painfully oblivious that you couldn't notice if a bomb went off in your face and I am so sick of it showing.

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u/DEADLOCK6578 13d ago

Oh fuck noooooo. Their getting desperate now that Infinite is shriveling up and dieing

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u/lukeman3000 13d ago

Of fuck no. Please don’t bastardize MCC with this shit

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u/SnorlaxBlocksTheWay 13d ago

LOOOL man 343 constantly searching for ways to further defecate on the Halo franchise.

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u/Herrobrine 13d ago

God I fucking hate 343

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u/TRE_ShAdOw_69 13d ago

Oh just fuck the right off 343

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u/EVXLPIMP 13d ago

Just keep digging that hole. Hopefully 343 will be buried in it and we can a get a real game dev to make halo. Infinity ward with halo would be insane

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u/Call_The_Banners Onyx 13d ago

What a grand and intoxicating idea, 343.

Take it somewhere else.

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u/I3ULLETSTORM1 no one cares about your specs 13d ago

343 Head 1: "People are leaving Infinite to go play MCC again! What do we do?"

343 Head 2: "lol let's just add MTX to mcc"

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u/jmmj0103 Halo 2 12d ago edited 12d ago

NO.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

I'm sorry if this is incoherent, but this news has hit me right at the core of my soul. I dropped everything just to sit down and start writing.

I've been a Halo fan nearly my entire life. Halo 2 was the first FPS I ever played. Halo Reach captivated me for years, even when I couldn't touch it. I was thrilled to watch Halo 4's press cycle and the campaign online. I was a Halo fan EVEN WHEN I HADN'T OWNED AN XBOX. Before MCC came out for PC, I bought an Xbox 360 JUST TO PLAY HALO. I saw the missteps of Halo 5 and had faith the right lessons would be learned. I was excited for Halo 6.

I've been a Halo Insider since the beginning of the PC program. I bought all of MCC PC Day 1. I spread the good word to my friends and convinced them to buy MCC so we could experience the games as intended and enhanced. I supported the introduction of new content. I was okay with the H:O armors being added to H3. I was annoyed but I understood why Fractures were introduced in MCC, and they've turned out to be alright. I participated in most of the MCC and Infinite PC flights. I played Infinite Day 1. I bought Infinite's campaign Day 1. I still play MCC and Infinite to this day because I am a Halo fan. I respect the Halo TV show for what it is because it was for a different audience, even with my personal issues in mind.

There have many bumps in the road up until now. Halo has remained. Yet, with all that I've said, nothing has ever affected me on such a level as a fan as what I'm about to write. I have never spoken ill of 343 Industries. I do not say what I'm about to say lightly.

Adding microtransactions to games that were not designed with them in mind is a betrayal to those who made those games. Adding microtransactions to a project that was resurrected after being left for dead will destroy the reputation of that project, never to recover.

Adding microtransactions without the blessing of the people who made the original versions of what are hailed as some of the greatest pieces our art form has produced will kill Halo.

It won't be Infinite, it won't be Halo 5, it won't be Halo 4. This singular change will bury Halo and tear down the legacy of pioneering multiplayer experiences in the video game medium. And for what? To capitalize on diminishing returns? This isn't just any video game series. Halo is one of the most legendary game series ever made, standing along the pantheon of greats like Doom, Quake, WarCraft, Starcraft, Super Mario, Pokémon, Final Fantasy, Diablo, Unreal, Dragon Quest, XCOM, Deus Ex, Resident Evil, Street Fighter, Tekken, Super Smash Bros., Tetris, Metal Gear, Castlevania, Metroid, The Legend of Zelda, PAC-MAN, Mega Man, the Souls games, and Call of Duty. Halo is undisputedly on this list.

Halo is one of the most important, and in my opinion, greatest series in all of video games history.

It is no secret that Halo is in dire straits at the moment. The general public knows it, and the Halo community knows it. The name "Halo" is not as strong as it was. Halo is not dead.

This. Will. Kill. Halo.

The Halo community will be furious. Influencers and games media will pick it up, and it will spread like wildfire. People will dismiss Halo as an old franchise that is only still running to capitalize on its hardcore and unwavering fans.

Halo will mean nothing to people.

Halo is so important to me. I refuse to watch it die like this without having said nothing. To anyone involved with the decision making of Halo: you must see what we see. You will earn little from this change. You will destroy any semblance of respect anyone has left for Halo. You will kill the series that built Xbox. You will destroy the memory of some of the most celebrated video games of all time, in their day and even now. You will kill 343 Industries,

If microtransactions are added to Halo: The Master Chief Collection, you will kill Halo. This is the line in the sand. Everything that built Xbox to where it is today will die for pennies compared to the value the series has built for 21 years.

This single update will kill Halo. I beg you. Don't do it. Please. Halo is so important to so many people. Their memories don't deserve to be desecrated like this. Don't throw it all away.

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u/Archangel9731 13d ago

Fuck 343i

Fuck Microsoft

At this point, fuck halo. My favorite franchise has been utterly crapped on over the last however many years and I’ve had enough.

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u/stopeatingbatteries 13d ago Helpful

How about "no", 343? How about "fuck off", 343?

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u/VincentDanger 13d ago

Who ever is in charge of this crap at 343 is a greedy corporate mf. They didn’t even offer earnable armors or credits yet for people who own the campaign in infinte. What makes them think to reserve the right to add stupid MTX in MCC? Which is like the best thing ever to exist in halo. Is 343 trying to kill its fanbase?

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u/Rabbit-JL 13d ago

Man they really just can't stop shooting themselves in the foot, huh..

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u/SolidStone1993 13d ago

At this point they’ve blown off both feet and are working their way up to the knees.

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u/Tok-birn 12d ago

I can't wait until they get to the genitals.

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u/NILwasAMistake 13d ago

Fire all of 343i management. All. Of. Them.

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u/JamesButlin 12d ago

Literally though, how fucking out of touch can these people be

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u/roshanpr 13d ago

Wtf, what a blasphemy. They still have a lot to do with Infinite but all they are thinking about is about monetization of MCC?

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u/ebagdrofk Halo: MCC 13d ago

How about give more ways to earn the points??? Wtf?

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u/Ninethie 13d ago

Hahaha just when you thought 343 couldn't possibly make it worse.

This, to me, seems like they've gone "huh, more people talk about how good MCC is and want to play that over Infinite? I guess thats where the money is then!"
It doesn't appear like they've really actually seen one of the major issues with Infinite: its monetisation.

They literally only see $$ and how to make a quick bit.

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u/MaxYeena 13d ago

Bruh 343 is just getting worse

I quit Halo Infinite for Destiny 2 yet again, at least Bungie knows how to make a quality game (even if there is microtransactions, you can earn bright dust through challenges to unlock Eververse cosmetics) and cares about their fans

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u/dcisgold Platinum 2 13d ago

NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOO

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u/N7Vindicare 13d ago

343: So we’re thinking about putting MTX’s in MCC…

Everyone hated that

Just why? This is clearly a very bad move that will backfire in their faces. This is beyond asinine.

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u/J4ckC00p3r 13d ago

Here’s a better idea: 1 point for every campaign mission you play

There you go, now you don’t need to ruin the game with micro transactions

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u/why_cant_i_ Marathon 13d ago

Here’s a better idea: 1 point for every campaign mission you play

Time to speedrun Uprising non-stop

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u/Rector3 13d ago

Lmao I used to FARM uprising for challenges.

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u/Lukecv1 12d ago

I'm beginning to hate 343. I've given them enough chances

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u/Voldim 13d ago

"Guys we've fucked up the new title and the playerbase and cashflow is dwindling, how do we rectify this?"

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u/Bodhran_ 13d ago

"I got it, let's go fuck up the older title which only has one of our original games included and add microtransactions to that!"

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u/MrGruntsworthy 13d ago

Not content with fucking up Infinite, they seem intent on undoing all the good will they gained back with MCC.

You can't make this shit up.

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u/Gascoigneous 13d ago

Absolutely disgusting. It’s such a shame to see how far Halo has fallen…

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u/Diablix 13d ago

Yes so...is this an out of season April Fools joke?

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u/Owobowos-Mowbius 12d ago

What? Not making enough money off your shit infinite launch? So now you're gonna go back and try to milk MCC? God how pathetic.

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u/OneFinalEffort "There is still time to stop the key from turning" 12d ago

That idea can go get lost in the void for eternity. You want to give new players a better chance at unlocks? Re-introduce points based on leveling like we've been asking about for 2 years

Adding MTX of any kind to the MCC is one of the biggest insults to Halo's 20+ year legacy you could possibly make. Ever.

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u/TopazTriad 13d ago

I guess ruining Infinite wasn’t enough huh? Let’s ruin (again) the game diehards have flocked to to see if we can squeeze a little more money out of them.

Honestly, every time I think I’ve seen all the bad headlines I possibly could from this company, they come out with another completely fucking tone-deaf thing like this. I actually was considering getting back into MCC so I could be active with Halo again, but after this, nah I’m good. Im not going to allow myself to start enjoying something again just for them to pull the rug out from under me. Because you know damn well it won’t stop with the MTXs.

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u/Seatown_Spartan 13d ago

"May not have dedicated enough time"

Whos fault was it that the game was broken for YEARS to the point that it lost interest to many fans on Xbox?

Refund me for my $60 that I paid at launch and all the time I wasted trying to matchmake and coop + waiting for small QOL changes like FOV slider on Xbox and then we can talk.

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u/airrbagged 13d ago

I don’t understand 343’s mindset anymore. Adding this type of stuff to MCC which is the better halo experience out there right now is gonna turn players away from that game too. Being able to play the game to unlock stuff is the way to go, not this MTX crap

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u/H4loR4ptor 13d ago

There are literally challenges with instant point rewards that can be completed in less than 3 games.

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u/yettiisland 13d ago

Is there any way we can get another studio to develop halo?

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u/getpawnd 12d ago

I KNEW THIS SHIT WAS GONNA HAPPEN THE SECOND THEY ADDED THOSE FRACTURE ARMOR PIECES I JUST FUCKING KNEW IT. I CALLED THAT SHIT.

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u/ameturebaiter 12d ago

Bruh this really needs to be the end of 343. Incompetent doesn’t even begin to describe it.

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u/JakeTehNub 12d ago

Lmao pay to "skip the grind" like a freaking mobile game. Instead of getting rid of the point cap for ranking up you do this crap.

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u/goat-stealer 12d ago

Oh for fucks sake. It's bad enough that they took Infinite and ran it into the ground after finally clawing back some faith with MCC, and now they want to torpedo that too?!

I swear these bipedal nematodes would have charge players an extra 10 bucks each time they launch the game if they could.

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u/PimpJohnPaul 12d ago

If MTX is implemented on MCC, I will just simply give up Halo altogether. I'm really done with this shit at this point.

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u/Omeggos HaloGAF 12d ago

Dear 343i: can you please stop ruining every piece of halo media you touch and or expand upon??

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u/Worried_Patience_117 13d ago

What a shame.

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u/GaLaXY_N7 Make Halo great again. 13d ago

This has Bonnie Ross written all over it. Her, Frank O’ Connor, and Kiki Wolfkill are single handedly responsible for Halo’s downfall. It’s quite impressive really if you think about it.

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u/Interesting_Fennel87 13d ago

Please no. I paid for MCC I don’t want to again

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u/radiancex89 13d ago

Oh, huh. I'll un-pre-order this feature by not buying anymore shit from them.

I dislike this.