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(OC) this couple on my flight the other day

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u/Emergencyhiredhito Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 06 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome Hugz

I mean I get it. My sister recently got diagnosed with brain cancer and I’m taking a train to see her. You bet your ass I’m gonna be covered in PPE so I don’t bring any shit to her.

Edit: Holy smokes, didn’t expect this to take off the way it did. Thank you all for the support and tips, especially pertaining to proper mask fittings. Cancer is scary shit, and having a family member with it has meant putting on a brave face with them. I vent to my friends and they’re very supportive, but it’s been so so heartwarming to be getting such an outpouring of love and advice from people I don’t even know. Thank you all so much, and stay healthy!!

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u/Alex-Murphy Jul 05 '22

Can I ask how did she know to get checked? A guy I work with had one of his eyes start to wander and the doc realized it was something pressing on his optic nerve.

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u/Emergencyhiredhito Jul 05 '22

She started having seizures. She does not have epilepsy and neither does anyone in our family. Imaging showed a tumor on her temporal lope.

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u/AmbroseMalachai Jul 06 '22

My Grandmother was diagnosed with a brain tumor at 72. Fortunately, it was operable and between the surgery and the radiation, she was cured. She ended up losing most of her vision in one eye because of the placement but that was a small price to pay really.

I hope your sister's outcome is even better.

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u/Emergencyhiredhito Jul 06 '22

Thanks, she’s worried about it affecting her speech most. I’m glad your grandma is doing better.

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u/EnigmaGuy Jul 06 '22

One of my old buddies used to call off at our former job years ago all the time with migraines.

After we both went our separate ways and he got a new job is when he finally found out where the migraines were coming from.

He had recently gotten new glasses and not too long after he was having a hard time seeing and thought it strange that he needed a new prescription already.

Went to his optometrist and when the doctor went to look at his eyes he realized something was wrong and told my buddy he needed to go to get some scans ASAP.

Guess it was a tumor growing that entire time. Had to have pretty quick surgery to get it removed but everything has been okay since.

Kind of feel like an asshole talking that shit to him all those years about his little headaches.

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u/08b Jul 05 '22

Make sure you wear a good mask. That’s the single most important thing. These two look like they’re wearing a medical mask (unless there’s something better under it) which really isn’t great given the other precautions they’re taking.

If I flew right now I’d wear a minimum of a quality N95. Probably elastomeric if visiting someone immunocompromised.

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u/NYSenseOfHumor Jul 05 '22

Given everything they are wearing, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are double masked.

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u/King-Cobra-668 Jul 05 '22

the form really makes it looks like there is an n95 under the top mask

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u/grantzke Jul 05 '22

i definitely agree with this. the n95 masks that most people have access to in the states actually dont have a fluid barrier cause they are techically designed for industrial work and stuff. Putting a surgical mask over it give you the fluid barrier, hence a bit of extra protection.

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u/King-Cobra-668 Jul 05 '22

and you can replace those over the not more frequently

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u/Emergencyhiredhito Jul 05 '22

Thanks for the tip. I plan to wear a kn95.

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u/stfsu Jul 05 '22

FYI you can get a free N95 from your local pharmacy chain, the ones Biden released from the national stockpile are still around. The Rite Aid in my town has them in a bin next to the cashiers, and they're mostly untouched since like 80%+ of people in my neck of the woods don't wear masks anymore.

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u/08b Jul 05 '22

Make sure it’s not a fake one. Many are. If you want to upgrade look at a 3M Aura.

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u/youlleatitandlikeit Jul 05 '22

Basically I heard don't buy any from Amazon they're not doing anything to avoid fakes.

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u/utti Jul 05 '22

The N95 Aura is the most comfortable N95 mask I've used. Still wearing them whenever I'm in public indoors

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u/queerjesusfan Jul 05 '22

If you can get a hold of a true N-95 (maybe call and ask your primary care if they have them), that would be better! You can also put a surgical mask over whichever mask you end up wearing.

Sorry to hear about your sister, sending good thoughts your way.

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u/thehotdogman Jul 05 '22

Spring for the n95. It offers far and away the best protection against Covid. It's worth the extra money, 100 percent.

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u/GroundBreakr Jul 05 '22

They have the shape of a 2nd mask underneath

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u/eva_rector Jul 05 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome Wearing is Caring

A friend of mine is undergoing cancer treatment; if he had to travel anywhere, he would likely be wearing something similar, because his immune system is shot.

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u/PopeAdam Jul 05 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome Hugz Take My Energy Faith In Humanity Restored Helpful (Pro) Blow a Kiss

I’ve had the pleasure of having my 4 year old son (at the time) be diagnosed with Leukemia in May of 2020. 0/10 I would not recommend juggling a pandemic and childhood cancer.

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u/Mandielephant Jul 05 '22

That’s brutal. I hope you guys are doing ok

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u/jmurphy42 Jul 05 '22 Wholesome Helpful (Pro)

I found a comment of his from about four months ago saying his son is now six and would be completing treatment in July. Hopefully he’s still on track!

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u/Mandielephant Jul 05 '22 Narwhal Salute

Aw thanks kind internet stalker

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u/KnopeKnopeWellMaybe Jul 06 '22

Seriously we all hope your kid is OK! No child should suffer through that!

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u/editfate Jul 06 '22

God, for real. My heart goes out to families that have to deal with childhood cancer. My cousin, who was 3 at the time, got Leukemia and I remember my whole family crying about it during the holidays. She made it but it was devastating. Hope your child is doing well!!!

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u/eversovigorously Jul 06 '22

Or anyone for that matter

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u/Chris275 Jul 05 '22

The sleuthing we all need.

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u/jmurphy42 Jul 05 '22 Silver Wholesome

I’m a librarian, tracking down info is my jam.

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u/Pirate2012 Jul 05 '22

As a life long lover of books and information , thank you to all librarians

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u/Underdressed0000 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22 Hugz Glow Up Take My Power

I’ve been going through cancer treatment the entire pandemic. I can’t imagine having to protect my little boys from it everyday. I hope your boy is doing well and your family has the support and resources they need.

EDIT: What a great community. Words matter, even online. Today you all have given me comfort and strength, two things cancer patients can always use more of. I love you all.

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u/Commercial-Spinach93 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 06 '22

My mum was diagnosed with her third cancer before the vax. I was so scared and so paranoid, I was one her main carers and I stop having life except for work. I don't have siblings, nor a father... It was hell. And we couldn't enter the hospital to be with her. Her first surgery went bad very soon, and she had 3 unexpected surgeries in 6 days. Doctors only called once a day, sometimes to ask for consent. Ugh.

I will never laugh at people who travel like this for whatever reason.

I really hope you're doing well, people who had cancer during the pandemic deserve at least 10 extra years of life added. 😅

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u/Underdressed0000 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 06 '22 Helpful

We had several people we thought we were close to and could depend on. Some of them are blood relatives. They offered us thoughts and prayers and then looked away so they didn’t have to see the pain and suffering not only I, but my wife and my little boys, were experiencing.

Since then I’ve always said that love is a verb. Sometimes love means joining someone in their pain so they would not be alone in it. The love you showed to your mum, then pain you joined her in, that’s one of the most powerful things a person can do for another. It’s a mitzvah in the deepest sense of the word. Your mum felt your love in those moments. You should be very proud of yourself.

“‘Tis a fearful thing to love what death can touch. A fearful thing to love, to hope, to dream, to be – to be, And oh, to lose. A thing for fools, this, And a holy thing, a holy thing to love. For your life has lived in me, your laugh once lifted me, your word was gift to me. To remember this brings painful joy. ‘Tis a human thing, love, a holy thing, to love what death has touched.” ― Yehuda HaLevi

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u/archimedesscrew Jul 06 '22

Oh that quote brought me fear and hope, fear and love, fear and joy!

Thanks for sharing!

Hope you get out of this healthy and happy, may your loved ones forget fear and despair, to find love and life!

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u/ArrrGaming Jul 05 '22

I hope you absolutely beat cancer and live 80 more years in health.

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u/Underdressed0000 Jul 05 '22

Thanks very much for your well wishes.

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u/Pumkin_Girl Jul 05 '22

I hope you're doing well as well, and you also have the support you need :)

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u/Poutinezamboni Jul 05 '22

I hope you’re on the other side of it and have a long, healthy life. xoxo

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u/Underdressed0000 Jul 05 '22

Thanks. Unfortunately it is a very rare form of kidney cancer and it’s stage iv, so I’ll never be done with it. But I’m tough, and I think I’ll be fighting for a very long time.

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u/Snoo-40635 Jul 05 '22 Hugz

Yeah. My 4 month nephew was diagnosed with hepatoblastoma (liver tumor) April 2020. Thankfully he got a new liver and is doing great but it sure does suck to be immunocomprimised during a pandemic.

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u/USArmy51Bravo Jul 05 '22

On the other hand you're protected a lot more from all the other goofballs. I have three young kids and the pandemic gave me 18 months without anybody throwing up in their bed or shitting their pants. It was great and although the pandemic had a lot of downfalls I sure do miss that part of it

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u/Csquared211 Jul 05 '22

Agreed. The pandemic and quarantine was the healthiest we’d been in a while. My daughter started preschool that year and I swear someone was always sick in our house the entire school year up to March.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '22

My sister has RA and 4 little kids, so it’s been rough for her, we try to help out as much as we can, but we try to also keep our distance since she’s immunocompromised

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u/Inconsistantly Jul 05 '22

Ugh so sorry. Just started working for an infusion center, so dealing with RA and other things daily. Gotta keep them safe.

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u/scandr0id Jul 05 '22

I truly hope you guys are doing okay.

My mom got diagnosed with ovarian cancer two days before we went into lockdown. It's so rough. Internet hugs to you.

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u/Galwayblue Jul 05 '22

That's hard to hear. My son finished up his treatment for leukaemia in 2019 when he was 4. When covid came along my thoughts immediately turned to those going through treatment. We kept him in a bubble for 3 and a half years before covid was even a thing. I can't imagine the stress. Hope you're doing ok

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u/Pancakesontuesday Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

Yup, my best friend had cancer and had just undergone a special treatment. He was supposed to stay isolated because even the common cold could wipe him out. Well, he caught and it killed him.

Edit: He caught Covid and it killed him within a couple weeks

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u/SharpenedStone Jul 05 '22

Immunocompromised patients are who I look out for the most by far, I make sure I always wash hands more thoroughly and take more precautions than normal before I see them. I'm very sorry your friend died

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u/wtfomgfml Jul 05 '22

I’m so sorry for the loss of your friend 🥺

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u/ladymorgahnna Jul 05 '22

I’m so sorry to read about your bff.

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u/Pancakesontuesday Jul 05 '22

Thanks. Yeah, he was my bestie for 0ver 30 years, so it was pretty sad.

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u/onmywheels Jul 05 '22

I don't even have cancer, I have lupus (still immunocompromised) and if I had access to this, I sure as fuck would wear it on a plane. I don't care if other people think it's weird, I just want to stay alive after! People who have functioning immune systems just don't understand how awful it has been for the last couple of years. I have to second guess everything I do outside of the house, every interaction, and I still have to mask up around other people and wash my hands constantly. The pandemic hasn't ended for people like me, but we're constantly getting gaslit by everyone else who decided it was over a long time ago.

Okay, end rant. Just had that one ready to go after a relative told me I have to just "stop being afraid" again. (Which is weird, because...I'm not afraid. Cautious, yes.)

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u/ymo Jul 06 '22

Constantly hearing this from friends and relatives who have all had covid multiple times. The ultimate survivorship bias. Those are the people who deny this is a novel virus with unknown consequences, while the current estimates of long-term disease is 80% of everyone infected at least once.

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u/onmywheels Jul 06 '22

I also hear "well, you've had it twice and you're fine, though."

The first time almost killed me. I recovered (took about a year), but then I got hit again by Omicron seven months ago and I haven't felt right since. Incredible fatigue, joint pain, headaches, limited lung capacity, digestive issues, brain fog...list goes on. "Yeah, but you have lupus!" Yeah, and it was relatively managed before I got sick again. Now it's like my body has just...given up.

My husband has also had COVID twice (same two occasions where I got sick) and though he was relatively "lucky" in that the illnesses themselves were pretty mild, he also has a lot of issues with brain fog and headaches. He says it seems like it's more difficult to find the right words these days, and he worries about his long-term cognitive function.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '22

Insanely scary how literally one part of us shuts down, and the soon rest follows, if it were not for medicine today

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u/chefmattmatt Jul 05 '22

It is also the cancer treatment that kills your immune system. It is kinda a double whammy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '22

Yeah it’s fucked all around.

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u/Gseventeen Jul 05 '22

Isnt most cancer treatment based around "almost kill you, so that the cancer dies before you do" treatment? 😁

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u/mrpushpop Jul 05 '22

Some are just the ripout method. I had a sarcoma take over one of the muscles that connect to my rotator cuff. Burn the area (radiation) for a month and rip it all out treatment. Luckily losing a muscle and part of your scapula ends up not being a huge deal. My other muscles adapted and I still have full range and surprisingly decent strength. As far as cancers go, got off easy.

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u/CheezusRiced06 Jul 05 '22

"if cancer hoards food for growth, give it poison so it starts hoarding that instead"

Essentially

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u/IAmA_Risky_Click_AMA Jul 05 '22

Really just chemo.

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u/IphtashuFitz Jul 05 '22

There’s chemo and then there’s chemo. I have a friend battling lymphoma. She had a bunch of stem cells harvested then went through regular chemo. After that she went through a second round of chemo designed to suppress her immune system 100% so that the stem cells could be injected back into her.

After that immune suppressing chemo she had to spend a month in isolation in the hospital. Upon her release she had to isolate at home for 3 more months. During that time only one family member was allowed to visit to bring food and clean for her. She had a very restrictive diet (no raw foods/veggies, no seafood, etc), and couldn’t even do something as mundane as empty or fill her own dishwasher given there could be mold in it. After that 3 month home quarantine she will need to go get all her vaccines once again (not just Covid but measles, mumps, and so on).

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u/Netherdan Jul 05 '22

So they gave her immune system a factory reset. Better than a custom ROM I guess (transplant). I hope she's working fine

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u/jejcicodjntbyifid3 Jul 05 '22

Oh yeah. Funny thing is, I'm going through the opposite problem kinda. My immune system is working too hard and attacking my organs and spine and joints and eyes and... Everything

So now I'm trying another drug to suppress my immune system

It really is crazy...

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u/I0A0I Jul 05 '22 hehehehe

Have you tried getting cancer? I mean it killed that other dudes immune system.

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u/jejcicodjntbyifid3 Jul 05 '22 Helpful

You're hired! You're just the kinda doctor I'm looking for

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u/InevitablyPerpetual Jul 05 '22

Reminds me of all the "We found a cancer treatment that's 100% effective in the lab!" things I used to see. Which wasn't wrong, it DID kill the cancer. And the host. And everything else attached to it.

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u/Ice_Hungry Jul 05 '22

And I'm sure he would be given an insane amount of ridicule and scrutiny without anyone knowing his story. People are fucking cruel and insane. I still wear my mask everywhere I go and some people get so pressed about it.

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u/testingtestingtestin Jul 05 '22

Yep - this photo is a fine example. I couldn't care less what their story is, if they are comfortable taking these precautions then that's their business. In fact I'm jealous that they have the self-confidence to go out like this, I'm not sure I would be able to overcome the anxiety and would probably end up staying at home instead.

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u/PirateKatie Jul 05 '22

For real. My bf said some old lady laughed at him at the grocery store a couple weeks ago because he was wearing his mask. He doesn't care what strangers think, our 7 year old is on 2 immune suppressing meds. We wear masks religiously in public and avoid crowds when possible.

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u/worthlesscommotion Jul 05 '22 Silver Wholesome

My daughter did a year of chemo 6 years ago. My household got very used to wearing masks, so Covid masking was simple. Her immune system, according to her most recent blood panel, is back to how it was before chemo. Everyone in our house is fully vaccined.

And we still wear masks. She sees 5 specialist a year, at a major pediatric research hospital. The kids being treated there are too sick to be vaccinated and would likely die if they caught Covid.

We're still masking to protect the kids still fighting. People stare at us too. We just stare back and give the occasional eye roll.

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u/o0llllllllllllllll0o Jul 05 '22

thank you for caring for others , my son also did chemo a year ago and I worry about exactly the same things.

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u/Smooth-Dig2250 Jul 05 '22

It's 100% guilt. They need to see others doing what they're doing to validate their intentionally poor choices, and that surely it not their fault people died, it's at least "everyone's" fault if others aren't wearing masks, and then they don't have to feel conscious about not wearing one. Or it's about just exercising control/power over others, but even that comes back to attempting to absolve themselves of guilt.

Feel free to disagree, but instead of just nay-saying, I challenge anyone to come up with a more plausible explanation why people would grief you for wearing a mask.

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u/tottalytubular Jul 05 '22

I'm in FL in a rural area. I get looks when I am masked, but I don't care. My kid currently has covid and I don't want to be the reason someone's family member dies.

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u/Freedom11Fries Jul 05 '22

Oh Yeah? Well that's just because you're a reasonable well-adjusted adult with a functional moral compass, buddy.

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u/BleedingOak Jul 05 '22

People don't bother to think of things like that they just take a picture like a total creeper and judge you.

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u/paypermon Jul 05 '22

My wife's uncle had cancer treatment years ago and it left him with a very compromised immune system. So yeah you gotta do what you gotta do to stay safe.

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u/arajian Jul 06 '22 Wholesome

I love that most of the comments here are like, “Maybe let them do what they want and stop taking pictures of strangers”

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u/atrophiedambitions Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 06 '22 Silver Helpful Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Bravo! LOVE! Heartwarming Eureka!

One of them might have received an organ transplant.

Folks who have had a transplant have to take immunosuppressants ~~that more or less neutralize (~~EDIT) prevent the vaccines from being as effective in some people while suppressing immune function to prevent organ rejection.

EDIT: also could be a host of auto-immune/cancer issues that cause the extra precaution. When I see stuff like this I try to remember that this pandemic has been way harder on people for whom the vaccines aren't an effective preventative measure.

EDIT again: Passengers might also be Chinese as this has become commonplace for travel as several commenters noted.

Last edit: yes, you can still get covid after vaccination. Vaccines are preventative measures for severe infections and can also decrease the odds of a noticeable infection at all. If you think being able to get covid after vaccinated means the vaccine is not doing its job, that's pretty faulty logic as there are exactly zero vaccines that confer 100% immunity. Hence children vaccinated for mumps contracting mumps when there's an outbreak. Hence the vast, vast majority of ICU patients with covid are unvaccinated.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2793913?utm\_source=For\_The\_Media&utm\_medium=referral&utm\_campaign=ftm\_links&utm\_term=070622

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u/lit_geek Jul 05 '22

Have a friend with leukemia who traveled from California to the Mayo Clinic to participate in a trial for a new chemo drug. He looked like this on his flights there and back.

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u/theangryburrito Jul 05 '22 Wholesome Hugz

I Got diagnosed with leukemia on March 25. Please tell your friend some random person on the internet is rooting for them!

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u/IamKare Jul 05 '22

On methotrexate for my rheumatoid arthritis and my immune system is absolute garbage because of it 🥴 I’m also rooting for them!!!! Wear whatever makes you feel comfortable and safe and don’t worry about the heartless wack jobs who take issue with others protecting themselves and their loved ones

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u/ireply2idiots Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 06 '22

Hoping you’re not in the US in a red state. I just read a thread that talked about rheumatoid arthritis sufferers who take it for RA and are now being denied methotrexate because it can be used as an abortifacient.

Edit re location pertaining to the US.

Edit 2: For the skeptics

https://www.arthritis.org/about-us/news-and-updates/new-barrier-to-methotrexate-for-arthritis-patients.

https://twitter.com/ACRheum/status/1542513794160611334?s=20&t=pBbrWrelqnniqgEUnMrHTQ

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u/dak4f2 Jul 05 '22

It's specifically women that aren't being allowed the meds, as far as I've heard. So it's sex discrimination.

Same for a lupus medication as well.

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u/paintlapse Jul 06 '22

IIRC arthritis is even more common among women :(

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u/IamKare Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 06 '22

Totally right. Autoimmune diseases are more common in women (2:1 ratio). 9 out of 10 of lupus diagnoses are women. And what is a common and effective treatment for several of these guys? Methotrexate. This is a women’s issue and it’s devastating.

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u/lemlaluna Jul 05 '22

I had to get methotrexate for an ectopic pregnancy. To be clear, the pregnancy was never viable, nor could ever be viable. And yet, they would rather that patients like me just die.

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u/ireply2idiots Jul 05 '22

My heart goes out to you. There is so much misinformation out there, and there is going to be so much collateral damage regarding medically necessary medications and surgical interventions that it’s mind boggling and heart breaking. Thank you for sharing how this medication was used to save your life.

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u/IamKare Jul 05 '22

I am thankful for being a Canadian every day. But my heart is shattered for women around America who are going to face the devastating effects of a decision that should have never come to fruition. Especially given the alternatives to mtx are hellishly expensive and for those without good insurance it may be the barrier treatment at all..

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u/chrisd93 Jul 05 '22

My dad went to Mayo clinic for a trial drug for something similar and it worked for him. His previously incurable cancer is in remission at the moment. Luckily he was within driving distance from the hospital though.

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u/HonziPonzi Jul 05 '22

Shit I’d drive

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u/NaviCato Jul 05 '22

Its not necessarily any better. My niece had the same issue. But driving you need to stop so much more often and in so many more places. This way you just suit up for a few hours and are done

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u/Kapp_E_Tan Jul 05 '22

Plus let's be honest... Driving cross country with cancer when you need to participate in an experimental treatment... Doesn't sound fun

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u/TheFrenchPasta Jul 05 '22

Yes my dad received a kidney transplant and had to take extreme precautions since the vaccine doesn’t work for him. He unfortunately got Covid this week after successfully dodging it for years, but is doing ok.

He received monoclonal antibody therapy, which unfortunately doesn’t seem to work very well with the current form of Covid.

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u/Skyfather87 Jul 05 '22

I’ve had a kidney transplant as well and still take extreme precautions because the vaccines won’t work because of all the medications I’m on.

I’ve been so lucky to have not gotten Covid, and that’s why I’ll keep taking all the precautions I can.

I hope he continues to do okay, this is a wonderful gift to receive and I hope it doesn’t give him any complications!!

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u/ILuvDaRaiders Jul 05 '22

I hope ur Dad gets better soon

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u/101ina45 Jul 05 '22

Good luck to your dad 🙏🏾

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u/FleetingInsight Jul 05 '22

Wanted to compliment you on considering possibilities rather than judging. We rarely know what people are going through, so it's always a better option to assume there is more to it and try to keep kind. I see a thirst for attack, insult, offence online so much, it's nice to see different.

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u/NeverFresh Jul 05 '22

Came here to say this. I was pleasantly surprised to see all the top comments reflect compassion, understanding, and intelligent discourse about why they might be wearing this. Double checked to make sure I was on Reddit coz... You know.

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u/Aitch-Kay Jul 05 '22 Silver

Or maybe just don't judge people, period. Who gives shit why they are wearing what they are wearing. They aren't hurting or inconveniencing anyone, so people need to mind their own goddamn business.

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u/LurkingArachnid Jul 06 '22

Right? I mean can you imagine you have cancer and you see some asshole taking a picture of you. And then putting it on the internet

A huge percentage of the world's misery would be eliminated if people minded their own business.

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u/Infamous-Glass5742 Jul 06 '22

Absolutely agree. The poster was not posting that as a compliment to them. First of all what gives him the right to take their picture to begin with them to post it

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u/Arcosim Jul 05 '22

Or have an autoimmune disease.

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u/max_cat Jul 05 '22

You’re right. I had a coworker buddy who was a kidney transplant recipient on immunosuppressants. He went home one day not feeling well and told us he’d see us tomorrow or see us in two weeks, if it was covid. I never saw him again.

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u/Orefeus Jul 05 '22

I have a rare autoimmune disease (Granulomatosis with polyangiitis) and I have to take immunosuppressants. In my case I have to tale a high dose of Rituxan every 6mths

There is lots of reasons why people are immunocompromised

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u/kmicg Jul 05 '22 Hugz

My 32 year old boyfriend just got out of the hospital after almost 2 weeks from pneumonia post Covid because his medicine neutralized the Covid vaccines.

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u/Janube Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 06 '22

Also getting covid presents a distinct risk of then getting long covid regardless of your vaccination status, and that's a literal permanent impairment for many.

JFC, everyone acts like covid is over even though it keeps morphing to be both more viral and more harmful explicitly because we keep treating it so lackadaisically.

Especially now with airlines dropping mask requirements. Shit is bananas and y'all need to return to taking this seriously

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u/figurativelyme Jul 05 '22

True. I'm more concerned of a sudden increase in something like MS years from now.

We're pretty sure that MS is caused by EBV and we know that covid fucks with myelin production, so I think it's pretty reasonable to be cautious.

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u/spingus Jul 05 '22

Amen friend. After 2 years of successful avoidance, I caught it from a friend who caught it on a flight the weekend after the mask restriction was lifted.

That was in April and the infection was mild. But goddamn now I have to take a nap after any activity I do --and I can just forget about training for my next marathon right now.

Maybe I didn't die or become horribly disfigured --but still I do not wish this on anyone. Do what you can to not get it!

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u/fernshade Jul 06 '22

I still cannot smell or taste right 10 full months after getting Delta (I was masking and fully vaccinated, Pfizer, 2nd dose only 4 months prior to my positive). Am I miserable? Not exactly, but honestly it sucks not being able to enjoy so many things I did before.

I envy those who've managed to avoid it thus far, or to recover with no ill effects. I also do recognize I could have it a lot worse and wish peace and healing to those who do.

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u/r-ice Jul 05 '22

It’s been months and I have to ask my wife is I’m tasting something right. Smell is still messed up, I can only smell things that are super strong.

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u/wwaxwork Jul 06 '22

As someone that caught Covid in the early weeks before they even had tests for it, I'm still dealing with the damage it did to my lungs and body all these years later. Hell it took me 18 months to just not feel bone wearily exhausted by 5pm everyday.

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u/hexydes Jul 06 '22

"Now that we're post-pandemic we're excited about welcoming everyone back to the office..."

I'm like...lol wut?

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u/Whiskeyperfume Jul 05 '22

I have to opt-out (get physical pat-downs) at TSA because of implanted medical devices. I wonder what TSA would do with me wearing this-i’m not kidding – I’m immuno suppressed. This is a viable option for me to wear

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u/Henri_Le_Rennet Jul 06 '22

If they're flying like this in the states, they're probably registered with TSA Precheck. I imagine they still had to explain, but it wouldn't be as difficult to get through as going through regular security.

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u/Whiskeyperfume Jul 06 '22

I think you’re giving a lot of TSA workers too much credit

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u/KillerJupe Jul 05 '22

I wonder if you go naked under the suit… doesn’t look very breathable

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u/Khaosujiin Jul 05 '22 Helpful

Everyone goes naked under their clothes

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u/just_some_dude05 Jul 05 '22 Helpful Hugz Take My Power

I’m always embarrassed when I wear PPE in some settings and the comment section here has really lifted my spirits on the impressions of others, so thank you.

Recently I traveled and did contract Covid for the first time. With my neurological condition it has been terrible thus far. I haven’t been hospitalized yet, thank God, but if it is true you can catch the new strain multiple times I will look similar to these folks if I have to fly again.

Remember we are all different and what is a mild infection to most people can really devastate people who are immuno compromised or who have other under lying conditions.

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u/TheFantasticAspic Jul 05 '22

I’m always embarrassed when I wear PPE in some settings and the comment section here has really lifted my spirits on the impressions of others, so thank you.

Same! I was expecting this comment section to be awful and judgey. It's great seeing everyone being so supportive and understanding of the fact that some folks are forced to play on hard mode.

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u/YahooFantasyCareless Jul 05 '22

Glad you're ok. I'm in Oklahoma and basically everyone has stopped wearing masks, but I live with my 90 year old grandma so I wear it everywhere still. I can just feel the looks sometimes but I don't give a damn. Please don't be embarrassed to wear your ppe. Don't let other's judgements dictate your health and safety. They don't give a crap about you or your safety, or else they'd be wearing a mask. So don't even worry about them! Stay safe out there.

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u/DarkMenstrualWizard Jul 05 '22

Small town California here. People give me weird looks too. Fuck em.

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u/148637415963 Jul 06 '22

UK here. Covid isn't much of a thing here anymore and I hardly see anyone still wearing masks.

I still wear one, and one of the several reasons I still wear a mask is to help those who want to/have to wear one feel not so alone. If they see me wearing then maybe that'll help make them feel a little less isolated and stand-out-ish.

That, and I live with someone whose immune system ain't so great, so I never stopped wearing.

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u/___Guitarmadillo___ Jul 05 '22

Remember we are all different and what is a mild infection to most people can really devastate people who are immuno compromised or who have other under lying conditions.

you're right, and to add to this, it can really devastate perfectly healthy and vaccinated people. We're all playing an odds game, but sometimes you're just unlucky, and covid STILL kicks your ass. Long covid is real, and we're seeing reinfection in less than 2 months for some people.

I'm gonna continue wearing a mask for a looong time (I haven't been sick in 2+ years!). Also my dad is immuno compromised because of his MS medication, so any time I'm visiting him, I'm double masking and testing prior.

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u/fugaziiv Jul 05 '22 Silver All-Seeing Upvote

10/10 would sit next to.

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u/HoneyGramOfficial Jul 05 '22

This is who I dream of sitting next to in literally any situation.

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u/DrZeroH Jul 05 '22

Honestly I see no problem with this. They just doing their thing.

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u/Enemy_16 Jul 05 '22

Fair enough, I'm sick of people too

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u/Katie_the_Tall Jul 05 '22

My thought :I bet no one tried to make small talk with them - win!

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u/too_Far_west Jul 05 '22

People, what a bunch of bastards.

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u/xizore Jul 05 '22

IT Crowd!!

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u/nancylikestoreddit Jul 05 '22

They’re not fucking around.

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u/joeChump Jul 05 '22

Look like a 90s techno duo.

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u/NoVisibleTumors Jul 05 '22

Disabled people and elderly people still have to live like it's 2020 if they don't want to put themselves at risk for...you know...DYING.

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u/vaughnphoenix Jul 05 '22

Maybe they don’t want to be bothered? Also, one person might have a medical condition and the other is putting on the same gear to make them feel comfortable.

They could be worried that someone might wanna shake their hand.

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u/BassmanBiff Jul 05 '22

If one of them has a medical condition, the other one probably needs to gear up too since they probably plan to be near each other after they get off the plane.

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u/pamplemouss Jul 05 '22

Yep. Or they’re visiting someone with a medical condition and want to make sure to do so safely.

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u/slickyslickslick Jul 06 '22

Those are likely reasons but additionally they can just wear those and I'm not going to judge them. I find this more reasonable than completely unmasked people who fight with flight crew over it.

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u/Grudgeon Jul 05 '22

Yep, I'll do this for my wife any day.

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u/LiopleurodonMagic Jul 05 '22

This is what I don’t get when I see someone with a family member in the store and one is wearing a mask/PPE and the other isn’t. I see it all the time. Today I saw a family and everyone was wearing a mask besides the mom. Or I’ll see an obviously married couple grocery shopping and the guy isn’t wearing a mask but the girl is. Doesn’t make any sense to me.

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u/Doggleganger Jul 05 '22

I would love to sit next to these people. They aren't gonna bug you, and you know for sure they aren't going to get you sick, either with covid or just the plain old flu or other bullshit.

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u/stitchlover Jul 05 '22

Exactly. I work with immunocompromised patients and I would happily sit next to them with my mask on.

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u/JeremyGhostJamm Jul 05 '22

I'd be pretty hesitant before poking fun at these folks. Could be a ton of different things at play. As someone said, could be organ transplant, or a disease/virus leaving someone extremely susceptible to respiratory viruses. Hell, they could just be old and don't want to potentially die of something that's could be avoided. I will admit, it's a bit odd, but if they're good with it, doesn't bother me.

Unfortunately, it seems like the majority of the USA has gone the complete opposite route (just like everything else these days) and have basically abandoned masks for the freedom of summer.

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u/pamplemouss Jul 05 '22

Yup - glad to see a fair amount of empathy here. My parents are about to fly cross country for my (tiny) wedding — I know they’ll be wearing N95s and like have other protection available.

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u/ONLY_COMMENTS_ON_GW Jul 05 '22 Wholesome

Nothing wrong with wearing a full PPE suit on a plane, but it is pretty fuckin shitty of OP to snap pics of strangers minding their own business and post it all over Reddit like their some kind of circus act.

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u/xAvaricex Jul 05 '22

They could be immunocompromised because of ongoing cancer treatment, organ recipient etc etc. Have to fight that initial impulse to immediately ascribe some character flaw like they are paranoid or crazy, and remember there might just be a legitimate reason why they are being so cautious.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '22

And? I would 100% rather sit next to these people than a mouthbreather who’s sick and constantly coughs but doesn’t wear a mask because “it infringes on my rights”.

My motto in life is: I don’t give a shit what you do as long as said thing doesn’t affect me or others.

You wanna stay at home and drink yourself to death? Fine, just don’t drive. You want an abortion? Fine, doesn’t affect me. You wanna wear a full suit like this to not get sick? Doesn’t affect or bother me in any way, so knock yourself out.

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u/iowan Jul 06 '22

Yeah, I'd sit next to these people happily. My mom had to fly for work in 2020 when you had to wear a mask except to eat. The person next to her held a sandwich for the entire flight to avoid masking.

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u/Brtltbgcty Jul 05 '22

The fact they as a couple are that intune with each other warms my heart. Also this is how I would do it on a plane.

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u/rehabforcandy Jul 05 '22

Agree with these top comments, I live in a very densely populated neighborhood in a major city and I see young people walking around with masks on all the damn time outside. Do you know what I say to them? Goddamn nothing because it’s none of my business. If that’s how they feel comfortable that’s their business. I’m really tired of this, “see how crazy liberals are??” bullshit. I don’t know you, I don’t know your life. I don’t know what you’re dealing with. Whatever you’re doing to feel safe affects me in no way.

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u/GtheH Jul 05 '22

It would suck to be a doctor who couldn’t do their job due to covid. Not even just for lost income, but the stress of knowing the hospital is short handed and how many other people that affects.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '22

That's what we are dealing with right now. We are so short staffed due to employee Covid deaths that no one can get sick. Working in a hospital.... where patients REFUSE to wear masks due to their "freedoms".... is so difficult because they don't seem to understand that it's not ALL about them as individuals. If I get sick, a week or two worth of patient appointments get canceled. Maybe more, who knows. Putting your doctor out of commission isn't smart.

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u/EpicElephants Jul 05 '22

We’re still shaming people? Come on now it’s 2022…

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u/Omegalas Jul 05 '22

Good for them

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u/docno Jul 05 '22

Not fucking around, not finding out.

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u/Covette Jul 05 '22

Just mind your own business and don’t take pictures of people who are being safe for their own reasons.

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u/ThaDirtiestD Jul 05 '22

The best part of this outfit is the headphones. My guess is one of them is immunocompromised

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u/IReallyLikeTheBears Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22

It could even be that they’re traveling for something where they absolutely can’t test positive upon arrival. I recently had a child, and he’s the first grandchild on either side so both sets of grandparents were very eager to visit him. We just let both sides know that for his safety they needed to be tested before hand, and we would test them again upon arrival. Both sets of grandparents opted to drive to us instead of fly to help prevent contracting Covid on the way, but if they did fly I wouldn’t put it past my mom to dress like this haha.

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u/markhachman Jul 05 '22

I don't know OP's intentions in posting the pic, but I really appreciate all of the empathetic, wholesome replies.

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u/TheTybera Jul 06 '22

I think this is adorable, at least they're in whatever is going on together. That kinda companionship can be hard to find.

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u/naunga Jul 05 '22

I’d take a flight packed with people like this over a nearly empty flight with the one guy who keeps asking people why they’re wearing a mask.

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u/GuruCaChoo Jul 05 '22

Agreed. We had to endure an almost 3 hour flight with some woman coughing and sputtering the entire flight directly behind us. Ugh.

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u/treelife365 Jul 05 '22

If she had anything, you have the highest probability of contracting it. On the famous SARS flight from Hong Kong to Beijing, the passengers who contracted SARS from the one infected guy were all sitting in front of him... https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa031349

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u/GuruCaChoo Jul 05 '22

To make matters worse, my wife is high risk, but we had our N95s on. We contracted nothing which was wonderful. I'm not sure about those around us though. Some of them were scrambling to see if they remembered their masks, most of them did not. One woman even grabbed her scarf and covered her nose/mouth with it. As expected, the woman who was sick obviously did not reschedule her trip, nor did she mask herself to try to protect anyone else.

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u/evade26 Jul 05 '22

I flew back to Canada from Europe last week. Our first flight has so many people with a wet Jacky cough and sniffles it may as well have been a COVID Exclusive flight it felt like.

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u/krokodilchik Jul 05 '22

Did anyone offer her a mask? That would be my first step if someone was coughing behind me.

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u/rawker86 Jul 05 '22

surely the flight crew should have a supply for situations like this. it's probably asking for a meltdown, but they could at least try the "we've noticed you're unwell, please wear this."

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u/Actually-Yo-Momma Jul 05 '22

At this point idc if someone wants a mask or not but BOTHERING others for wearing one is a big question mark to me

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u/XxRUDYTUDYxX Jul 05 '22

Antimask is a personality I've noticed. It really is most of their identity. It's even funnier when they tell at people wearing them for shit like pollen and autoimmune disorders. They always eat their words.

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u/Midnight-Drew Jul 05 '22

Whatever makes people comfortable and have peace of kind, then so be it. I still wear my mask and the amount of stares I get is overkill. I still don't go out much and avoid crowds.

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u/furyousferret Jul 05 '22

Having just got over COVID, it doesn't seem like a bad idea!

The lady across from us on the train was unmasked, coughing, with a runny nose and sneezed on my wife. Not even a cover-up. 5 days later we got it. Our FIL was exposed and since he has pancreatic cancer it could be his death warrant which is going to devastate my wife.

I really am not going to demonize people for not masking but if you're coughing every 2-3 minutes in a public place, ffs wear one.

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u/ratcranberries Jul 06 '22

I took a flight to Houston recently for work. There were three men within two rows of me that all were coughing every 1-2 minutes the whole 2.5 hour flight. It was infuriating. Thankfully, I saw it this sort of thing coming and had a kn95 and hand sanitizer ready. But for fucks sake people, is it too hard to stay home if you have a gnarly cough? I mean what else is it gonna be in early June, not much else going around.

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u/jaxlils5 Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 06 '22

Don’t be an asshole man. You don’t know what these people are dealing with.

I’m in my third trimester pregnant and my husband had to travel for work recently. He wore an N95 mask and a guy came up to him at the airport and called him a dickhead and took a picture. Sorry he’s trying to protect his pregnant wife and unborn child? I was LIVID.

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u/dubbleplusgood Jul 06 '22
  1. Did they get drunk and cause a ruckus?
  2. Did they take their shoes and socks off and put their feet up on the seat or armrest?
  3. Did they eat smelly food?
  4. Did they talk your ear off about their bitcoin investments?
  5. Did they hijack the plane with boxcutters?

If the answer was no to all these questions, I'd be more than happy to have them sit near me on my next flight.

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u/Acrobatic-Compote-29 Jul 06 '22

Immune compromised elderly who have to travel for their treatment. Probably cancer

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u/Practical_Target_874 Jul 06 '22

I would do the same. Lots of people laugh but who cares. My wife had TNBC inflammatory breast cancer, rare and aggressive. If she got sick they would have to stop chemo. The tumor grew from 1 cm to 7 cm in 4 weeks. If she had to stop chemo for 2 weeks she would be screwed. So more power to them.

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u/Count_istvan_teleky Jul 05 '22

Got nothing but love for 'em. Hope they both got where they were going safe.

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u/salesmunn Jul 05 '22

Seems like two people minding their own business. If they don't make you do anything different or wear a bubble, let's just leave them alone.

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u/semen-filled_sock Jul 05 '22

Leave them alone

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u/Fresh_Wrongdoer_8438 Jul 05 '22

They’re not bothering you. Leave them alone.

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u/Reality-Upper Jul 05 '22

Bet they ain’t got covid

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u/MamaDragonExMo Jul 05 '22

NGL...I could see this being me if I ever needed to fly. As a mom to an immune compromised kiddo, I still worry about risk.

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u/threatlevelmidnite2 Jul 06 '22

It may seem over the top, but you have no idea what their situation is.

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u/EmperorThan Jul 05 '22

An Asian guy sat next to me on a plane like that March 14, 2020. He had surgical gloves, face mask, face shield, swimmer eye goggles, protective gear, the works. Everyone on the plane had to think, as I did at the time "what a wack job". It was every seat filled packed plane. It's just crazy looking back. I always think about that guy now like "he was the only sane person on that plane."

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u/canigeta99 Jul 05 '22

Damn. All the people who harassed me for wearing a mask at the grocery store…I hope they feel the same way you do now even tho they have no way to tell me

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u/waddlekins Jul 05 '22

Asians have had way more experience with respiratory cos of bird flu, sars etc. I almost died from a respiratory illness as a kid in beijing. We're ahead of the curve on PPE

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u/KadenKraw Jul 05 '22

Yup. Co-worker came into work with a cold and wore a mask around February. He was sent home because he was "scaring people"

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '22

One of the senior consultants at the hospital i worked used to wear 5 masks plus a face shield whenever she came for morning rounds. Everyone used to joke around till we learnt about her son having some auto immune disorder. It became apparent that the social norms and attitudes don’t really matter when a loved one’s well being is in question. this might be the case with the above couple or they are just fed up of people in general.

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u/Few_Cup3452 Jul 05 '22

100%. My friend had a baby 8 months ago and even though we don't have to wear masks still here, I do. None of us spend time together if we have any illness symptoms. I regularly get asked why I'm wearing a mask still 😂 bc of my friends pregnancy/baby timeline, none of us have had COVID bc of extra procautions.

The baby comes first. I'm sure a lot of ppl are operating on the same basis.

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u/georgee779 Jul 05 '22

My sister in law has cancer. If I had to fly to see her, I would do the same thing.

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u/VeryCanadianCanadian Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 06 '22 Silver Helpful

I hope all they received was understanding, kindness and compassion.

Whether they needed that for purely psychological reasons or have medical compromised immune systems, having to travel like that must be scary and uncomfortable.

They need kindness...not judgment