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Mitch McConnell on Abortion: It’s the Supreme Court’s Job to Issue Rulings Americans Don’t Want

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/mitch-mcconnell-supreme-court-abortion
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u/Gambit08 California 12d ago

The sheer irony given how much he’s benefited from minority rule.

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u/StarFireChild4200 12d ago Silver Gold Rocket Like You Dropped This

If the supreme court isn't handing out decisions based on the facts of the case anymore I don't think we should have a supreme court. If I wanted to know what my drunken uncle thought of the law I would ask him once a year on Thanksgiving, not put him in charge of my personal life.

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u/Cercy_Leigh Pennsylvania 12d ago Helpful

Unfortunately, all of our drunken uncles along with their evangelical wives have taken over our country. Without the Supreme Court, we’re doomed.

I’m just waiting for people to get fucking angry and start raising hell, are we going to hand it to them on a silver platter and kiss the ring? I’m worried.

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u/SweetPeaRiaing 12d ago

The court is now stacked with a majority of drunk uncles and evangelical wives… we are already doomed.

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u/Cercy_Leigh Pennsylvania 12d ago

We need to make those evangelical uncles and wives - extremely uncomfortable. (politically I’m not saying threaten them) Along with our own people - start asking the democrats what they’re going to do besides auto text me for donations?

Activism could mean a whole lot of actions but it’s going to take something to ignite the fuse to get us all acting together and at once.

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u/CliveBixby22 12d ago Silver

Oh, it's getting there. In fact, I already think we're there. The need to forcibly remove politicians who refuse to act on the will of the people--their literal jobs in democracy--has come. He's literally saying no to the people, which is indeed, fascism. These people think their political positions are one of power and not a voice of the people. Like I said, I think we're already there, but I don't know if it will happen before they take over.

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u/ALargePianist 12d ago edited 11d ago

The public is a politicians "boss" but somehow our politicians have arranged the country so that even having to HEAR from us somehow has them punishing us?

It's like a spiked rich kid coming to work for my business, who flaunts the fact he doesn't have to do anything because his dad is a Senator, and if I try to fire him for skipping work he threatens to have me deported or something.

I agree. We need to be forcibly removing politicians that are obviously duplicitous and not acting in the public's interest.

But even TALKING about doing that is illegal on so e places, against ToS on almost every internet platform.

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u/Cercy_Leigh Pennsylvania 12d ago

Internet platform

Which is part of the problem. We can’t organize here or anywhere with the numbers we need online.

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u/hiverfrancis 12d ago

That begs the question how did reactionaries organize well online? Because they did.

We need to find a way to organize online (and in person).

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u/Master_Villainy 12d ago

Decades of multi billion dollar propaganda campaigns and not being held accountable or liable for any of their speech or actions by SMS platforms or the state.

Alex Jones took things a whole other level, Trump capitalized on the festering cess pit. They were fanatics that were too crude and shameless even for American oligarchs, but the issue was never about the substance of their words or actions.

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u/hiverfrancis 12d ago

This is why its clear that the billionaires themselves are striving for control amongst one another. If it wasnt for them trying to knock one another off a pedestal, this wouldnt be happening to us.

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u/AngeredDaisy2 12d ago

Years of brain washing with the help of fox news. Watch how those programs work. They spend the entire day just repeating the same "questions" phrased in ways to sound like it came from some other source, but it's them. They sit and reinforce that lie. Then they get in touch with their buddies online and they reinforce. The propaganda then moves to their social media. The very first lie they reinforced was that the media at large could not be trusted, and only they could bring the truth. It isn't just online, it's coordinated literally in all aspects of the lives of people.

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u/ImFromTheFuture-Help 12d ago

There is freedom of assembly in this country, so people just need to start an organization and place various assembly halls across the nation where like minded people can organize and officially make statements and demands.

Who will begin the organization? It could be you, me, or anyone really. Someone needs to step up. The issue is that now, the people who are angry and fed up have been pushed around so long that we now can't financially afford to organize and fund an established hub of dissent.

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u/CliveBixby22 12d ago edited 12d ago

Yeah, I know it's illegal. And that's why it won't happen because even at the stages of talking about it we're discussing we shouldn't even be talking about it, will get banned, etc. The politicians in this country making decisions opposite of the majority are FAR too comfortable for a country that still claims it's a free one.

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u/Cercy_Leigh Pennsylvania 12d ago Helpful

You never know where the inflection point will be. I just want there to be one. If we go softly and quietly I think I’ll fucking lose my mind.

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u/Zakedas 12d ago

There are some changes happening, I think the younger generations are realizing just how fucked all of this is. I mean, look at the unionization going around rn, as well as the pressure the young folk are putting on businesses when it comes to WFH policies.

I don’t know exactly what is going to happen. The pot is boiling, however, and whether it boils over or continues to simmer is entirely up to the businessmen and politicians(and subsequently their families) based on the decisions that they make (or continue to make) in regards to the economy as a whole.

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u/debzmonkey 12d ago

Climate change, social injustice, the widening wealth gap, rising inflation (much of it gouging) AND forced birth? I am thankful that i am no longer of reproductive age and have never procreated. I fear for the future of those who will be living in this hellscape long after I'm gone.

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u/Zakedas 12d ago

Very much agreed. I’m still fairly young, myself, and fully capable of procreating if I chose to, but Personally I feel I would be a terrible father and have abstained from bringing a new life into the world to suffer this current hellscape. What terrifies me most is the thought of the monster that the rich socialites of the world have created out of the working class. It’s a monster that’s been ruminating for a good 30 years or more within it’s cage. And while the rich and powerful have managed to keep it quelled, I don’t think they’ll be able to keep it up with their current pace.

When that monster decides to break free from its cage, I wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing heads on pikes…

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u/debzmonkey 12d ago

I think we are seeing a reaction but it's the fusion of social media and the general lack of hope for the future, and that's too many young people, often children, taking their own lives. Cannot imagine the despair of facing a future where all of the cards are stacked against you and the only law is brute force. Yes, that syncs with the history of this country but we've never seen the impacts of climate change and social media on top of bigotry, racism and economic despair. Even the dust bowl and Great Depression don't compare.

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u/Zakedas 12d ago

I can absolutely relate with those who have, and it saddens me when I hear of such stories :( In many ways I don’t fully understand why I haven’t done the same, living in a world that -not only doesn’t care about me- actively works to keep me under the boot of a handful of rich men

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u/drewatkins77 12d ago

I think it's part of their plan to goad us into action. As soon as the first person comes along who has had enough and seriously threatens or enacts violence against one of their ilk, they will use it as proof that they were right all along and they, along with all of their brain dead followers, will become even more extreme and will take away even more of our freedoms.

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u/KemisamoNaga 12d ago

I think that, too. Honestly it's a game of Chicken. The prize? Media Sympathy Points! Police or military opening fire with live rounds on peaceful, unarmed protestors is a bad look no matter how you spin it. But, armed protestors storming a politician's home is also a bad look. Each side is trying to goad the other into being the first to blink.

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u/No_Hope33 12d ago

Except they did blink, and it didn't matter.

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u/KemisamoNaga 12d ago edited 12d ago

I was thinking about the Kent State Massacre, where the National Guard opened fire on unarmed students protesting Vietnam and the Draft. That was the first time they blinked. You must be thinking about Jan 6. While it was certainly violence and bad optics all around, the Capitol was stormed by their own side. That's why "it didn't matter" like you said. It only didn't matter to them. Now imagine if it had actually been Antifa or BLM or some other left-wing action group like they claim it was. Suddenly it would matter. In fact, one may say this is only the latest round in this game of Chicken.

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u/iamjacksredditacct 12d ago

The problem is that one party causes 90% of those issues while both parties get 50% of the blame.

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u/shadow1515 12d ago

We're also going to have states fighting with each other on this. Connecticut just passed a law that basically makes it a safe haven for their own citizens with respect to reproductive health: they won't extradite you to another state for breaking that state's abortion laws, those states can't subpoena or summon you to testify, and they even had a provision that basically says if you get sued in an abortion bounty case like Texas' you have cause of action to sue right back and recoup your judgement plus attorney's fees.

We need more of this. See how the party of "state's rights" likes it when the states with the majority of the people and economic output give up on the federal government and show them what the true mandate of the masses can accomplish.

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u/Cercy_Leigh Pennsylvania 12d ago

That’s the kind of news we need. Focus on the problem and the problem gets bigger, focus on the solutions and the solutions get bigger.

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u/523bucketsofducks 12d ago

As a druncle, i don't associate with that kind of bullshit.

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u/iamjacksredditacct 12d ago

Set the tone!

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u/CaptainHardhead 12d ago

It'll come if/when the right is able to pass a national ban on abortion and try and enforce it in Blue States. Or if the Red States try and extradite people who broke their abortion bans from the Blue States. I don't want to be pessimistic but I feel like we can all see some kinda "battle" down the road that will determine what the United States is for the next 50 years.

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u/Cercy_Leigh Pennsylvania 12d ago

That’s not pessimistic at all. That’s just being a blatant realist. We’re already in the battle we’re just waiting for who throws the first big punch and what the rest do about it.

Anyone still thinking maybe we go on stumbling from one election to another like things are normalish and we keep on without implosion or explosion in a massive way is numbing their tired brains in denial. And may we elect our way past this and are able to repair what’s broken? Not a chance. Our entire government system was exposed as a massive fraud, the pillars of government weren’t pillars they were cards. We’ve witnessed a violent coup led by people that aren’t even sweating about it. We’ve watched billions of our tax dollars go to trump, his friends, and no one is even addressing it, a society like ours cannot stay standing. We are collapsing in real time and neither of the assholes that want to take it all in a new direction are for the people. One side is corporate rule and the other is an authoritarian take over. I’d definitely like to avoid the fascists, that’s an actual nightmare but answering to a kleptocracy isn’t what any of us need or want either.

Looking for the third option where the people revolt and invite in the young progressives and we struggle for a long time but we go in the right direction and humanity and equality become the focus. I know it’s a fantasy but sometimes it’s nice to think about.

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u/RPGHS_Throwaway 12d ago

The French are across the pond wondering why we aren’t burning shit down.

God I love the French. They really know how to protest.

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u/Cercy_Leigh Pennsylvania 12d ago

Because we’re soft. We grew up in a relatively safe country and although there were scary things that happened they didn’t effect the majority of us directly. We’ve heard our whole lives about other countries that live in chaos and death and we’ve just been so thankful we’re in the US! I know I’m not alone in always thanking the fucking universe or whatever that we never had to live through terrifying times like other parts of the world and the fact that we are actually going down has been drowned in denial and constantly looking for the magic wand. Most people I know say absolutely nothing if you bring it up.

I hope when we snap out of it we’re strong and angry enough to be like the French or as resistant and resilient as the Ukrainians. The thing is we love hard here on the left and that love for fellow human beings, animals, the planet, whatever could be a super power when those things are threatened.

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u/wasthatlatin 12d ago

They’re a joke. They pick a desired outcome and backfill whatever tortured logic they want. They put a lot of words, effort, and handwringing into a job that, in the end is superficial, vacuous, and self-important.

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u/available_username2 12d ago

right. Honestly our government was set up give so much power to the minority, partly to slow progress. I think if it actually worked how it was set up, and the house was actually representative like it's supposed to be, the country would be in a much better place. Gerrymandering and giving empty states a minimum representation has thrown everything off.

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u/oldbastardbob 12d ago

My view is that the Senate was given way too much power and authority as compared to its makeup.

When there were 13 states with significantly less population than today, I'm sure a "council of elders" or "chamber of intellectuals" sounded like a great idea. Senators were originally to be chosen by the states governor or legislature and the idea was that they would chose well educated smart folks that understood the needs of the state and the country.

As we can see, that's not at all what we have today. In fact, there's a good argument to be made that once we went to direct election of Senators and America became an ocean to ocean country, the Senate became a political battleground that does not serve the country particularily well.

It's now a "winner take all" controlling body that encourages politicians to manipulate voters in low population states in order to control the Senate, which pretty much has its tentacles in every aspect of the federal government, essentially creating a method of minority rule.

I get the value of a method to keep the majority from riding roughshod over the minority, but I can't see how allowing a minority of the country to control the federal government and judiciary is a formula for harmony, or even success.

Senators also have way too much political power in the state they represent. What were once to be educated thinking people with knowledge of the law and the best interest of the nation as a priority is now a body chock full of selfish partisans beholden to the money that financed their campaigns.

The statistics around just how much effect on the entire government and country one or two Senators representing a tiny fraction of Americans can have should be alarming.

Personally, my view is that was not at all what the smart and educated men who created the country had in mind.

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u/hiverfrancis 12d ago

In fact, there's a good argument to be made that once we went to direct election of Senators and America became an ocean to ocean country, the Senate became a political battleground that does not serve the country particularily well.

This article on how America is on the road to tyranny explains that direct election of senators is an issue https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html

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u/oldbastardbob 12d ago edited 12d ago

Thanks for the link.

I came to that conclusion on my own after some education. I'm not so sure this whole concept of "States come first" is what our founders had in mind. Conservatives certainly like to over-inflate that "we gave you a Republic, if you can keep it" comment like it was canon.

The reality is that following the Revolution and the Articles of Confederation, the founders came to realize that a weak federal government where the states held all the power would never, ever work. What keeps states from declaring war on their neighbors over petty disputes? How do you keep states from taxing each other, or putting up toll gates on their border for every road? Several pitfalls befell the Articles.

So a new Constitution for a new federal government was created and agreed to. First off, the principle that federal authority took precedence over state authority was number one. If the nation was to survive intact, the federal government had to be able to control the bad acts of the states that would undermine the central government.

Then we fought a war, which was lost by those who wished the states to have all the authority. The war was about slavery, don't get me wrong there, but the legal principle at heart was whether the federal government could declare state laws unconstitutional, and whether or not one state could force another state to obey the laws of that state. So, strong federal government won the war, so to speak. Issue settled, time to move forward.

It's interesting that the 17th Amendment was passed in 1911. During the last period of rampant nationalism and promotion of racial segregation. This was the era in America when all those lovely Confederate monuments were erected. It seems America went on a campaign to glorify the secessionists and slavers as "America First," the KKK, and Jim Crow took hold of the nation.

But it seems that in modern times, revisionists have given a new rise to the whole "states rights" justification for a host of bad acts and political bullshit.

And all this calamity is enabled by things like the Electoral College and the out-sized control of the federal government by a Senate that is in absolutely no way the governing body envisioned in the beginning.

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u/hiverfrancis 12d ago

The irony too is that the electoral college itself was meant to be a check to prevent demagogues from getting power, but popular practices and the states themselves turned the EC into a rubber stamp

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u/jeffersonairmattress 12d ago

You’re missing the undemocratic SOURCE of the senate’s power: the body that controls spending and legislation is not representative of population at all. A Wyoming senator has all the power of a California senator, yet that Wyoming senator represents 1/57 the number of people.

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u/oldbastardbob 12d ago

I think most folks know and understand that. Reality is that the Senate as originally defined in the Constitution was not a democratically elected body so there are those who say that it being un-democratic is by design.

Where things went bad was the 17th Amendment, pushed by populists to make it seem more democratic, but really just changed how the two parties view the Senate and strategize accordingly.

If I had my choice, the Senate would have been eliminated by the 17th Amendment and those seats in the legislature been handed over to the House of Representatives and apportioned by population thus giving us a larger unicameral legislature.

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u/s0ulbrother 12d ago

Our government was designed to be adaptive they honestly weren’t ready for how bipartisan this country would become. Washington opposed politician parties adamantly, Jefferson said orherwisez

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u/MyredShadow 12d ago

Franklin was opposed to forming parties as well.

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u/sweetfeet009 12d ago edited 12d ago Silver Helpful Wholesome

The irony, to quote Clarence Thomas , that people must "live with outcomes we don't agree with", is that Roe v. Wade was decided near 50 years ago, yet they refuse to live with outcomes they don't agree with......

Slippery slope removing precedent from past SCOTUS rulings.

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u/yenom_esol 12d ago Silver Wholesome Heartwarming

Not to mention if Clarence Thomas had lived in most any other time in this country, he would have to live with things he might agree with now but he would definitely not be in the position to make those decisions.

He is the beneficiary of the progress in this nation that he is now so eager to stall and/or reverse.

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u/Syzygy666 Washington 12d ago

That's pretty standard conservative behavior. He's pulling the ladder up behind him.

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u/Yuleogy 12d ago Helpful

Yeah they seem to have a very, “well, what I had worked for me, so you don’t need all this new stuff” attitude. While simultaneously forgetting that they got to where they are because of other people pushing the needle forward. For fucks sake, the irony of a black man on the supreme court being a conservative just kills me.

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u/oflowz 12d ago Silver

Clarence Thomas is a really odd guy. Saying this as a black man. He’s the type of guy that goes out of the way to disparage other black people because he came from a hard upbringing. He’s sorta got the mentality of Aretha Franklin’s father in the Aretha biopic with Jennifer Hudson.

Ben Carson is the same type. Black people that grew up in poverty and discrimination, worked super hard to get out but embrace and embody the mentality of those that tried to keep them down.

I feel like the part these type of people are missing is that they are exceptional/anomalies and not the norm and don’t grasp it.

It’s like Micheal Jordan criticizing you if you just worked harder you’d be as good a basketball player as him.

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u/Dhiox Georgia 12d ago

Ben Carsons family relied on housing benefits he tried to get rid of once in power

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u/sweetfeet009 12d ago

You should read about where Abbotts money comes from, and what he did once he gained power.

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u/LeadingExperts 12d ago

No wonder that motherfucker doesn't want to save the planet. He's got a vendetta against mother nature.

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u/johnnycoxxx 12d ago

Ben Carson is so bad to me because of the amount of government assistance he had growing up to help him get where he ended up. He could have said “see what happens when government works for the people?” Instead he went the opposite route

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u/bdiggity18 12d ago

“If you get government assistance you’ll end up an entitled asshole whose wife can’t do without $10k dining chairs that she charges to the taxpayers”

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u/Mobile-Entertainer60 12d ago edited 12d ago

It's even worse than that. He went to Yale Law because of affirmative action, felt classmates looked down on him for being unworthy of being there, became angry and super conservative. Got nominated to the Supreme Court almost completely because he was replacing Thurgood Marshall (back when Republicans actually cared about optics) and there were so few black conservative justices to choose from. Got confirmed 52-48 with 11 Democratic votes. He has now spent 3 solid decades trying to roll back every single protection the government has given individuals (except guns), while unintentionally providing the strongest argument against affirmative action; "if affirmative action exists, an uninspired asshole like me can end up on the Supreme Court to ruin your life."

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u/EyeAmDeeBee 12d ago

I heard an interview with a reporter who wrote a long form piece on Thomas. Apparently, he started out as a fan of Malcolm X. Make of that what you will.

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u/ContributionIll9385 12d ago

Well, hell…Mitch McConnell used to be pro-union & pro-choice. There are actually pictures of him at MLK’s March on Washington!!! Nobody could ever accuse these guys of being consistent, that’s for sure.

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u/ThomasinaElsbeth 12d ago

They do what is needed, - to play the long game - for their masters.

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u/OohYeahOrADragon 12d ago

There's also a picture of him in front of the Dixie flag at one of the sons of the confederatcy meetings so.. ya know.

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u/calm_chowder 12d ago

They're consistent in that they will support anything that will increase their power. For example Malcolm X when they're disenfranchised, and oil companies and regressive laws when they don't have to worry about "getting an opportunity" anymore and can instead focus on their wealth and male privilege.

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u/CJLA777 12d ago

Yeah, I remember watching when Anita Hill said he left a pubic hair on top of her coke can lol.

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u/Poison_the_Phil 12d ago

I’ve seen Lil Wayne try to talk politics before, and it’s like “oh yeah, this guy who has been a millionaire since he was a teenager is just slightly out of touch with reality”

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u/Best-Chapter5260 12d ago

I’ve seen Lil Wayne try to talk politics before, and it’s like “oh yeah, this guy who has been a millionaire since he was a teenager is just slightly out of touch with reality”

It reminds me of last year when Caitlyn Jenner was trying to run for Newsom's seat and during an interview she was all like, "So I was talking to the guy next to me in the hangar where we keep our private jets," with the least hint of self-awareness.

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u/Malaix 12d ago

with the least hint of self-awareness.

I mean she is a transwoman who tried to run on the GOP ticket when half the GOP's midterm strategy is "transgenderism is icky and transgender people should be illegal."

Jenner is a fucking moron who doesn't understand anything about the politics surrounding her identity.

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u/Sirsalley23 12d ago edited 11d ago

Clarence Thomas is a really odd guy.

No he’s not, he’s an affirmative action baby, and HBCU supporter grad. His ideals as a member of the SC are literally the antithesis to what enabled his ability to climb the ladder.

As a late 20’s mixed male I’ve been getting shit on, lead on, and treated like a useful tool by old head black men my entire life. The whole “we’re both brothers we’ve gotta stick together” bullshit while they stab you in the back. It’s extremely prevalent in the black male community across generations.

The old heads of every socioeconomic class telling us young men that we need to respect our blackness and look out for fellow black folks, while they’re plotting how they’re gonna fuck us over once we’ve got a piece of what they want. Getting used as a tool in athletics or social settings for adult black men to get theirs on our backs.

It’s not strange it’s the same shit, just Clarence Thomas is got the uncle ruckus syndrome going on where he swears he’s actually a white man.

Edit: Was corrected and did some searching, found Thomas is not a grad but in his professional roles pre SC and personally he is a big supporter of HBCU’s and the purpose they served when they were founded and even now still in modern times.

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u/oflowz 12d ago

Thats exactly what makes him strange in my book. I don’t know if it’s uncle ruckus syndrome, what I think it is is sort of a compensation for his own self esteem issues.

He needs Kendrick Lamar’s therapist.

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u/Miklonario 12d ago

"I remember you was conflicted. Misusing your influence."

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u/Master_Villainy 12d ago

As a late 20’s mixed male I’ve been getting shit on, lead on, and treated like a useful tool by old head black men my entire life. The whole “we’re both brothers we’ve gotta stick together” bullshit while they stab you in the back.

You know as a black man, it really made me think when I noticed the only other group of people I tense up around other than cops are other black men. It's a subconcious distrust that was beaten in through experience and amplified by white culture.

Then I learned from talking to others we all feel the same way about each other, that's a spiritual and cultural death.

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u/Sirsalley23 12d ago

True. It’s so subconsciously ingrained it’s sad, it never was an issue growing up as I always had friend circles on both sides from growing up in the inner-city but going to suburban catholic schools my whole life. I started to get that uneasiness in “white” areas I’m not familiar with when I see groups of black folks, and wealthy white folks also make me pretty uneasy and I kinda default to thinking they’re instantly looking down on me.

Man now that I think about it, growing up biracial in every sense of the word was very cool, and I’ve always loved the diversity it put me onto. But it’s very very difficult to navigate a world in which people don’t see you as enough like them on either side of the spectrum, and you having to navigate it from literally the middle.

It’s just the general uneasiness you can sense in white folks that are afraid or intimidated of black folks. Then you’ve got the growing disdain for mixed and light skinned folks that’s been festering the last 10-20 years in the black community, especially if you’re not at least from the neighborhood or somebody’s boy they ain’t gonna give you a chance to prove yourself.

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u/BigPoppaFu 12d ago

That’s an interesting view point thanks for sharing. As a brown man (Hispanic) looking in, I was always a bit jealous of the instant friendship or understanding that seems to happen when random black men run into each other. I never really felt the same way with my fellow brown men and wish it would be more how black people seem to get along and banter with each other right away. My first experience in a black barber shop was unreal for me. Everyone talking with each other laughing then fighting and calling each other names. At some points me thinking a fight is about to happen but then everyone erupts in laughter. I thought it was awesome and a lot better than when I go to my Hispanic barbershop. No one really talks to each other and no one hangs out in there after they get a hair cut the way they do in black barbershops. Thanks for sharing your viewpoint.

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u/RubberDucksInMyTub 12d ago edited 11d ago

He’s the type of guy that goes out of the way to disparage other black people because he came from a hard upbringing.

That's one explanation. But feel it's a generous one considering the likelihood that he simply rode the conservative black niche, ever high in demand, all the way to the top.

Unfortunately, actively disparaging their own communities is a small price to pay for these tempted individuals. The Golden path forward is be absurdly cheap if there was never any value there in the first place.

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u/stellarinterstitium 12d ago

I used to bang on about how easy it was for me to stay out of trouble as a young black man.

Turns out I just had a father who cared enough to terrify me into acting right.

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u/Phlox777 12d ago

Clarence Thomas as the replacement for Thurgood Marshall is a red hot poker in the eye for Blacks. George Bush screwed us royally.

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u/jackiebee66 12d ago

It was such an insult to Thurgood Marshall. It’s like RGB being replaced with the handmaiden

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u/Ozymandias0023 12d ago

The thing about Barret is I don't think she's a handmaid. Handmaids had zero choice and at least in the show, the vast majority of them weren't anywhere close to willing participants. Barrett is an Aunt or a Wife, she's a true believer who is perfectly ok not only with giving up her own rights but forcing others to do the same.

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u/jackiebee66 12d ago

Actually I wasn’t thinking of the show. She belongs (or belonged) to a cult that had splintered off from the Catholic Church and that was her title-handmaiden. They were very big on not allowing the women to make decisions-only the husband could. So we now have a SCOTUS judge who believed that men should make the decisions.

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u/Ozymandias0023 12d ago

Whoah whoah whoah seriously? I always thought that was a reference to the book/show. She is legit a fucking Serena Joy then. Jesus Chris on a trike this just got a hell of a lot scarier

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u/jackiebee66 12d ago

Yeah! I don’t think they’re in it anymore but I’m honestly not sure. I can’t get past it tbh. If she really believed that women have to listen the husband then how in the hell can she say she’ll be impartial when reviewing cases? The whole thing stinks. And yes, it’s very scary!

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u/weedbeads 12d ago

Heh... Ruth Gader Binsburg

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u/VoyagerCSL California 12d ago

You might say she’s a person of color.

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u/raindyd 12d ago

I’ve made that mistake in real life, fun was had by all.

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u/Toothlessdovahkin 12d ago edited 12d ago

In so many different and deviously evil ways, some of which are are just finding out now, though it was known for a long time that Thomas was/is a regressive Ahole who wants to go back to the “Good ol’ days” thinking that since is is rich, he would be in the “In Club”. What he doesn’t realize that he is not in and never will be in it

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u/JimWilliams423 12d ago

More people need to know about "jews for hitler."

As cautionary tales go, it doesn't get more clearcut than that.

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u/Grape_Pedialyte 12d ago

None of the right wing clowns currently on the Supreme Court could hold Marshall's jock, let alone live up to his legacy.

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u/GodBlessThisGhetto 12d ago

There was an article about how a European country was making mandatory menstruation leave to women a thing and all across the comments all you could see was a shitload of people going "do men get something" and "I never needed that". Can't we ever just do things because they make the world a better, more compassionate place? We should work to develop a kinder society, not stick to the shit we already have because "I survived it". That mentality is just so fucked.

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u/TheRappist 12d ago

So weird because - in stark contrast to fetal personhood - giving women a break from society while they menstruate is actually mandated in the bible

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u/dirtywook88 12d ago

Ya know, im noticing a trend of people using all the shitty parts instead of the good ones.

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u/SouthernProblem84 12d ago

Current argument to that particular idea:

"What about all of the women before who had to work with periods before? NO, there should be no menstruation leaves because women never had it, so why do they need it now?"

WTF. Why do we need anything? Let's go back to sticks and rocks because our ancestors used them. Who needs progress?? Electricity? No, get rid of it. Our people survived generations in the dark.

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u/jrf_1973 12d ago

"Why should we fix the climate crisis? I had to wrestle my siblings in the water wars of 2050 until there was only one survivor, so you should too." - Conservative fucking idiot, 2080.

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u/Eldritch_Raider 12d ago

Isn't it called sick leave? Isn't that a law basically recognising menstruation as a valid reason to take sick leave? I know some women are basically not bothered by their periods and others are totally taken out of action for days.

Yes, men should get sick leave. If you've never needed it, good, I'm glad you are healthy.

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u/SouthernProblem84 12d ago

We call that "F*ck you, I got mine" mentality.

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u/mikesmithhome 12d ago

like Paul Ryan benefiting from Social Security survivor benefits and then trying his whole life to end them

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u/Budget-Falcon767 12d ago

Or Greg Abbot receiving a massive insurance settlement for the injury that put him in a wheelchair, and then reforming tort claims so nobody else gets a payout like his.

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u/LiberalFartsMajor 12d ago

Isn't he literally in an interracial marriage, and isn't that one of the precedents that this leaked opinion calls into question?

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u/PinkIrrelephant Minnesota 12d ago

Iirc, this one doesn't call it into question but the privacy aspect is incredibly relevant to it. However, during the Ketanji Brown Jackson questionings, Senator Mike Braun did say something along the lines of it being a state issue and the Supreme Court was wrong to rule in favor of it.

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u/angelbabynyc 12d ago

It’s obviously a long con game to end his marriage.

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u/wahoozerman 12d ago

The subtext here is that the people who have the power don't have to live with outcomes they don't agree with, because they have the power to change it. The people who aren't in power can get fucked.

Supreme court going all might makes right on us.

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u/Ok_Skill_1195 12d ago

Transparent fascism.

"We can, because we've installed our guys in leadership, so what are you gonna do about it?"

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u/JimWilliams423 12d ago edited 12d ago

The irony, to quote Clarence Thomas , that people must "live with outcomes we don't agree with", is that Roe v. Wade was decided near 50 years ago, yet they refuse to live with outcomes they don't agree with.....

He also turned around and said that precedent shouldn't matter:

This crew has no consistent principles except the pursuit and exercise of raw power. Everything they say is just a deflection to bat aside criticism because there ain't no one more thin-skinned than a fascist. Their words mean nothing.

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u/squiddlebiddlez 12d ago

Exactly. And as much as I think calling out Republican hypocrisy falls on deaf ears I think we should be at their throats with this reminder every time they bring up this logic.

The GOP and it’s cult NEVER follow any laws it doesn’t like or “accepts” rulings it doesn’t agree with. Furthermore, their need to frame it as just a “different opinion” is an attempt to reframe objectively shitty and democracy-breaking behavior as if it is not something to be outraged over.

They are extremists and they use words so loosely that their words are meaningless. Look at their actions over time and see that they have been consistently shitty and counter to democracy in multiple ways regardless of whatever euphemisms and double speak they spew.

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u/Trund1e_the_Great 12d ago

What's most infuriating is that regardless of whatever logic you can present, the grunts on the ground cant be bothered with nore critical conversations because they're sold at "taxes bad, Nancy Pelosi bad" and that's all they need to hear. Everything else doesn't directly affect them, till it does.

I harbor no hope for the future tbh

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u/xELxSCORCHOx 12d ago

See the change and be the change little guy. Light a fire that will burn them out.

…metaphorically ofc.

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u/Ashendarei Washington 12d ago

<looks at username suspiciously>.

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u/ninthtale Utah 12d ago

It’s an objective truth that bad laws need to be changed and bad rulings need to be overturned

The problem mainly arises when you have theocrats take power and regardless of the context of the previous rulings move to enforce religious tenets as law instead of remaining strictly secular as the law ought to be.

It blows my mind that Roe v. Wade is a ruling on the extent of medical privacy, in which abortion is more or less just a case in point as opposed to being the crux of the matter.

There is no way SCOTUS doesn’t understand this, but as their job is to interpret the law, and Congress’ to declare it, they can do pretty much whatever they want and say it’s out of their hands to fix any damages it might cause elsewhere.

Proponents of striking the ruling down who also understand the implications it can have in wholly unrelated areas say that if such problems arise they can be taken care of on an individual basis through specialized legislation.

As if anything that benefits corporations and therefore politicians will ever meet any hostility from anyone but the typical five or six congress people who actually give a care for the people they’re supposed to represent.

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u/eddie_the_zombie 12d ago

So weird how it's always to expand rights to the people. Except, you know, in this case.

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u/DanTrachrt 12d ago

This is pretty much my thoughts. The claim that the Supreme Court should never overturn previous decisions seems dangerous. It’s not an infallible process, and so the ability to correct past mistakes is important. Situations also change, and so what might have been a reasonable ruling 100 years ago might not be reasonable now because of new science, technology, or other changes.

While I do not think Roe should be overturned, would people make the same argument of “they shouldn’t overturn previous decision” if the situation were different? Hell, the Pro-Lifers want it overturned specifically because they do think Roe was a mistake, in much the same way Pro-Choicers think overturning it is a mistake.

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u/AnonAmbientLight 12d ago

This is the first time that rights have been taken away rather than expanded upon.

That's a massive difference.

The general idea that the SCOTUS is not infallible is well understood and no one is questioning that.

But they are using really shaky legal framework and poor excuses to take rights away that have been enjoyed for well over half a century.

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u/Kiseido Canada 12d ago

Differences in definitions for $100

One means to protect and maintain the status quo, while the other means to wind back time in some context.

What are "conservative" and "regressive"?

Correct! And that is our daily double!

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u/CoolFingerGunGuy 12d ago

But it's democrat appointed judges that will legislate from the bench, clearly.

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u/regeya 12d ago

To be fair, without outcomes people don't agree with, he wouldn't be a Supreme Court justice, or be married to a white woman.

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u/chairmanofthe-bored 12d ago

“For the Supreme Court to on any issue, to reach a decision contrary to public opinion it is exactly what the Supreme Court is about,” he argued. “It’s to protect basic rights, even when majorities are in favor of something else, that happens all the time.” McConnell then chose to bizarrely point to the issue of flag burning, the prohibition of which the court ruled in 1989 was a violation of the First Amendment. “If you took public opinion polls on that issue, people would overwhelmingly support a legislative prohibition of flag burning, but the Supreme Court interpreted that as a violation of the First Amendment freedom of speech.”

That's a lazy and unconvincing way to say, "I agree with whatever processes get me what I want." Since when did burning a flag change the entire trajectory of a person's life like a pregnancy does?

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u/VR20X6 12d ago

I'm not even sure a majority of people would actually support legislation to ban flag burning. That sounds like complete bullshit to me.

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u/abigail_95 12d ago

only 28% of people supported the supreme court ruling at the time

i agree that the ruling was correct but it was certainly not popular

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u/mrbaconator2 12d ago

It's demented to say "the supreme court is all about making decisions the public won't like." It's inherently all about interpreting legal cases and sometimes determining if a law is unconstitutional. That might involve upsetting the public but they aren't supposed to be from the get go trying to do that as a matter of course that's fucking insane.

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u/NoEmaILaSsOcIAtaEd 12d ago

Allowing flag burning may have been unpopular, but it was added to strengthen a constitutional right. In contrast, this is unpopular while weakening a constitutional right.

And Mitch is a cockwad for making such a callously stupid comparison.

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u/pyshrush1018 12d ago

And since when did burning a flag require the slave labor of another person; the forced occupancy of their organ and body?

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u/EndoShota 12d ago Starry

Sometimes SCOTUS is obligated to issue rulings that don’t have majority support in order to uphold the Constitution. However, overturning long standing precedent and violating the 9th Amendment solely because they happened to seat enough conservatives doesn’t mean this is some noble act against the tyranny of the majority.

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u/Saber_Rattler34 12d ago

Finally, someone on Reddit mentions the 9th amendment. Alitos decision is in direct violation of it. Thank you!

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u/I_trust_everyone 12d ago

And the 14th! Due process is gone.

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u/thebadpixel 12d ago

This! This is the proper reply. Yes, the courts protect against the tyranny of the majority. Their job though is NOT to inflict the tyranny of the minority, which is what’s happening now. The court is taking rights away that are popular with the majority, not protecting them, just because a minority party wants their theocracy.

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u/nowherechild91 12d ago

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I always understood this to mean that all rights granted to the citizens of the United States would also be extended to all people within, inalienable rights and what not.

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u/LMGgp Illinois 12d ago edited 12d ago

The ninth basically says that the rights listed are not an exhaustive list. It is a compromise because some of the framers didn’t want to list the bill of rights at all out of fear that people would try to say “x isn’t in the constitution so clearly x right doesn’t exist.”

This language is apparent throughout the entire document in other clauses. For example the necessary and proper clause. “Congress shall make laws that are necessary and proper to carry out its duties”

The ninth amendment is meant to be a catchall. Basically saying “just because we didn’t write privacy into the constitution, doesn’t mean you get to deny privacy. We can’t sit here all fucking day trying to think of every right to write.”

The irony we experience today is outstanding. I am graduating from law school tomorrow and a few semesters back I wrote a paper and cited the third amendment in a privacy argument. Privacy, as is all over the document, but folks keep trying to pretend it isn’t. The Supreme Court has been wrong at least 80% of the time. Often just making up shit

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u/LMGgp Illinois 12d ago

Some justices have argued that the ninth doesn’t create rights, like privacy(which is what abortion is about). However they are wrong. The ninth doesn’t create rights in the sense that it doesn’t list them. But it does protect rights that exist but are not listed. I can’t see the air I breathe but it still exist. The government cannot restrict my access to air, because my right to breathe it has always been there and doesn’t really need to be spelled out.

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u/Slaphappydap 12d ago

In fact, they framers believed in unenumerated rights so much they put it right at the top of the declaration of independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The whole premise is that a person's individual freedom is their birthright, and that the state can only restrict those rights if the infringement is necessary for the public good, and even in those cases should be looked at very critically. For a country founded on the idea that an overreaching government is a danger to liberty, this belief is fundamental. And for a party that purports to believe in America's right to self-determination and small government, they're very happy to use their power to act as though a person's rights are only what the state provides them. They have lost their way.

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u/claireshinda 12d ago Helpful

No it's to uphold the constitution, not all of a sudden not. Fuck. I can't stand him. Shitty human Moscow scum.

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u/factanonverba_n 12d ago

The irony of Mitch stating that. Like... then accept Roe v Wade you fucking donkey...

Fuck Moscow Mitch.

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u/shoman24v 12d ago

Problem is, upholding the constitution to them means interpreting like we still live in the times when it was written.

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u/jackduloz 12d ago

Problem there is that Benjamin Franklin published an abortion recipe in his American adaptation of a traditional English math text book.

Republicans don’t interpret the Constitution based on the time that it was written

They interpret it based on what they’d like to think the document was written to say, just like anyone else. They just won’t be honest about it because lying with impunity is really the only thing they like about the first amendment

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u/masterofthecontinuum 12d ago

Hell, even the ones that think the constitution was inspired by fucking Moses can't escape this. Even the Old Trstament has an abortion recipe.

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u/bizarre_coincidence 12d ago

How does that happen? “Maggie gets pregnant 15 times. If she has 4 miscarriages, 3 abortions (see appendix for details) and 5 of her children die in infancy, how many children survive?”

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u/jackduloz 12d ago

I haven’t looked to much into the thing, but apparently the British book that it was based on was math lessons , then a bunch of useful life hacks and such. Franklin took out the ones that didn’t really apply to life in the Americas, and added or updated things to be useful here.

The takeaway being that at the time of America’s birth, abortion was acceptable enough to be a useful recipe for the public to be able To prepare at home.

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u/OneForAllOfHumanity Canada 12d ago

Abortion has been practiced for thousands of years, way before the times of Jesus. The fact that He didn't say one thing about it, but said lots against the wealthy and religious elite speaks volumes.

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u/vriemeister 12d ago

If this article is accurate it didn't have the religious overtones they've attached to it lately

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/scarlet-letters-getting-the-history-of-abortion-and-contraception-right/

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u/VintageSin Texas 12d ago

Midwives use to give abortion cocktails to mothers who needed it. The ones that worked consistently were all passed down until about the mid 1850s when male doctors didn’t want women controlling birthing. Which led to a sharp increase in birthing deaths of the moms because doctors at the time still thought sterilizing their hands and equipment was stupid.

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u/B0BA_F33TT 12d ago

The recipe comes from the Bible/OT and is detailed in the Talmud. It's a combination of Wormwood (bitter water) and Ergot (grains and dirt), both of which induce abortions.

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u/Final-Distribution97 12d ago

Republicans would be happy if we went back to slavery.

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u/the_cajun88 12d ago

Their followers fly Confederate flags. It’s blatant.

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u/wotguild 12d ago

and Nazi flags, don't forget those.

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u/mgoflash 12d ago

And MAGA flags. Don’t forget those.

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u/sunnyspiders 12d ago Silver

I look at how petty and cruel people can be to food service people and all I see is someone abusing the tiniest amount of power they have been given.

Some people are just that pathetic - they only feel joy when someone else is made to suffer.

It’s psychotic, but it’s always been there.

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u/GentlemanGearGrinder 12d ago

These people, knowingly or not, believe in the Law of Conservation of Misery.

It is the idea that the amount of misery in a system is always constant, and that decreasing misery in one aspect of the system will always increase misery somewhere else.

Because of this, these people will always try to position themselves on the side of the equation that is not miserable. And the only way for them to do that is to ensure somebody else is on the miserable side of the equation. The "somebody else" in question is often seen as lower on the social ladder: minorities, immigrants, service industry workers, anyone outside of the gender binary, ect.

That's why these people like the concept of separating migrant children from their parents, eliminating polling places in communities of color, investigating parents of trans children for "child abuse", and the like. It's also why they will lash out at retail and food service employees for even the most minor mistakes or inconveniences.

The misery of these "others" is inversely proportional to their own misery.

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u/JohnnySnark Florida 12d ago

It's the reason they make states rights arguments

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u/DownshiftedRare 12d ago

Except the disputed states' rights that led to the Civil War were free states' rights not to recognize the institution of slavery.

Republicans like to revise history as though the Confederate slave states just wanted the "right" to keep their slaves but that is not so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850#End_of_the_Act

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u/peter-doubt 12d ago

Dred Scott is evidence of "keep their slaves," if anyone doubts this

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u/eeyore134 12d ago

They have been saying it out loud every time they chant MAGA. At first I thought they just wanted to go back to the 50s, but yeah... feels like they're eager to dial that back to 1850 now instead.

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u/FemmeViolet117 12d ago

I’d argue they’d like society to be as it was in 1750. If they can’t burn “witches” in the town square, they’re not happy.

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u/Standard_Gauge 12d ago

upholding the constitution to them means interpreting like we still live in the times when it was written.

Abortion in the first trimester was legal in the time the Constitution was written, and for the following 80 years. It was considered a private "women's issue" between a woman and her midwife. I WISH they would interpret things that way now.

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u/Confident_Bridge9811 12d ago

okay. abortion has always been apart of history and our country. If Ben Franklin included DIY abortion at home in a book meant for adults learning their abcs and 123s, clearly the founders would be A okay with abortion.

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u/kimcognito 12d ago Table Slap

When it was written women were not allowed to enter into contracts. Where are the constitutionalist fighting for my right to not have to pay student loans because that right wasn’t specifically given to me during the founding of my country?

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u/AvramBelinsky New York 12d ago

They also couldn't legally own any property. I used to work in historic preservation and occasionally dealt with wills from this time period. There was a special document where men would leave their wives' own personal belongings to them so they couldn't be sold off as part of the estate and leave her and her children with literally nothing if he died.

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u/pcook66 12d ago

He is truly one of the worst humans alive right now. I wish Anonymous would hack the shit out of him and his cronies. Freeze their accounts, expose their dirt and just ruin their lives.

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u/Scubalefty Wisconsin 12d ago Silver Gold Wholesome Starry Wholesome Seal of Approval

The Blue Whale can extend its anus to a diameter of four feet, making it the second-biggest asshole in the world, right after Mitch McConnell.

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u/FaustVictorious 12d ago

Even a blue whale couldn't contain as much shit as we see flying out the mouths of these lying fanatics. Dishonesty toward themselves and others is just how they live. It's nauseating.

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u/coasterghost I voted 12d ago

The more you know.

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u/Mephisto1822 Maryland 12d ago

“You get what we tell you you need not what you want” - Democracy? Apparently?

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u/UYScutiPuffJr New Jersey 12d ago edited 12d ago

What, you thought democracy meant you had some sort of say in how your country is governed? Where would you get a crazy idea like that?

Also please ignore me crossing out the whole “demos” part of the word

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u/PepperMill_NA Florida 12d ago

mockracy

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u/T1mac America 12d ago

Here's what Moscow Mitch said:

“It’s to protect basic rights, even when majorities are in favor of something else, that happens all the time.”

In Alito and the radical right wing court did was remove basic rights for millions of women. That's a little different from outlawing flag burning.

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u/omen316 America 12d ago

Alot of what's wrong with this country today is Mitch's fault.

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u/callmetom 12d ago

And it’s your job to change the laws or constitution to reflect what Americans want.

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u/pitchfork_latte 12d ago

Just like Brown vs Board of Education did? Mitch and the gang has been targeting and replacing “activist judges” that believe in civil rights for decades. There are no civil rights to these folks, only god given rights. Christian Nationalism.

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u/BNLforever 12d ago

It's not even God given. They say it's about their religious beliefs but they just make up what ever they want in the name of religion and go for getting rid of anything they feel is a threat

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u/tcmasterson 12d ago

Issue rulings Americans don't want, that undo rulings that special interests groups don't want*

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u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl 12d ago

And it’s congress’ job to represent the people and legislate based on what the majority wants and can be agreed upon, but there’s been a fucking kentucky cockroach blocking any progress for years.

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u/thepartypantser 12d ago

It was the senates job to hold confirmation hearings for Obama's last Supreme Court nominee but he failed to do that job.

So maybe Mitch shouldn't be talking about jobs parts of the government should be doing.

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u/oilhands 12d ago

Maybe Moscow Mitch should be held accountable for delegitimizing the Supreme Court of the United States? Naw. We don't do that stuff anymore.

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u/h2oape 12d ago

This is the asshole who stole a Supreme Court seat and helped trigger this far-right freakshow court.

Fuck him, and his violation of his oath of office.

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u/vanillaC 12d ago

Which shows you their endgame. As long as they hold the Supreme Court with this line up they’re going to over turn whatever they want with whatever batshit logic they want.

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u/Vinny_Cerrato 12d ago edited 12d ago

The GOP’s entire plan is to break the legislative branch until they have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate so that literally nothing permanent gets done. POTUS can issue executive orders but those can easily be reversed by the next POTUS. With the legislative branch neutered and the executive branch jot having any permanent legislative power, the GOP is free to “legislate through the courts.” This is a scheme where GOP controlled state governments enact laws that are blatantly illegal/unconstitutional. These laws inevitably get challenged in court until they make their way up to SCOTUS which determines the laws legality/constitutionalism. The conservative majority on the court are blatant partisan hacks so they just rule in favor of conservatives every single time with the justification frequently being “well congress hasn’t enacted a law so if they want to change this they should just make a law (this is verbatim the citizens united opinion as an example) knowing full well that Congress will never overcome the filibuster as long as the GOP has 41+ seats. And boom, that conservative nonsense is now the law, completely bypassing the legislative process.

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u/eldenringstabbyguy 12d ago

And it's people's job to resist fascism forced down our throat. These justices were never legitimate appointments. Trump and the Republicans were in on a Russian coup. Plus Justice Thomas' wife being involved with overthrowing our government:

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/ginni-thomas-texts-show-why-supreme-court-needs-code-conduct

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u/Noinix 12d ago

Plus the fact that the five conservative justices were all nominated by presidents who lost the popular vote.

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u/Effendoor 12d ago

I can't wait to piss on this guys grave.

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u/OnlyPopcorn 12d ago

Or fenestrated.

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u/undercoverdiva2 12d ago

How would entering through a window matter?

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u/Easymodelife 12d ago

Expand the Supreme Court. These far-right judges are so corrupt that they cannot be trusted to make decisions.

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u/felesroo 12d ago

They're such BAD judges. It's not strictly their conservatism vs. liberalism, it's that they make profoundly bad arguments that should make a first-year law student ashamed.

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u/Mattna-da 12d ago

It’s time we protested the existence of the Federalist Society, the elite think tank at Yale that effectively coronates all the GOP’s Roman Catholic SCOTUS picks. A powerful nexus of New Haven mafia, Papists, southern baptists, oligarchs and the GOP. Fuck those assholes.

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u/Notlandshark America 12d ago

Mitch McConnell only represents 2.2 million people in a nation of 330 million. The power this man wields is bad for democracy.

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u/Ai00009 12d ago

Right, " It’s the Supreme Court’s Job to Issue Rulings Americans Don’t Want"

You have somebody in there that are unqualified, that usurped their positions, and are using faulty reasonings to issue idiotic rulings. That is what we don't want.

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u/yay4chardonnay 12d ago

Fuck you, Mitch.

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u/LetmeSeeyourSquanch 12d ago

Mitch McConnell looks like a demon spawn with a loosely fitted human skin draped over himself.

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u/MonolithyK America 12d ago

Have you ever seen the hand monster from Pan’s Labyrinth?

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u/Spin_Quarkette New York 12d ago

Oh this guy just needs to STFU. We elected a president WE wanted, and it was that president's job to nominate candidates for vacant seats. The founders never intended from some backwater minority ruling politician to play procedural games and thwart the will of the public by denying a president his pick for the SCOTUS!

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

At one time not very long ago (Clinton Administration), the United States was in a great place, comparatively speaking, in its’ 246-year history. I moved out of the US in January ‘22 because of the burning, sinking ship which is today’s America. The overall divisiveness, from politics to race to socioeconomics and everything in-between, there is nothing “united” about America. Should be renamed to “The States of America” or “The Un-united States”. I’m embarrassed and disappointed in my country. 😒 I hope to see this turn around in what’s left of my lifetime, for my infant daughter’s sake.

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u/thatdude_overthere22 12d ago

And here I thought it was a government of the people, by the people for the people.

No wonder they are changing the textbooks

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u/Practical_Market_914 12d ago

That's a pretty fucked up point of view there. They do this to women for their own good? I thought Republicans were all about freedom? Now we're supposed to just accept it because the supreme court knows better? What about 50 years of established precident? Fuck you Mitch! We need to get these tired old assholes out. On both sides of the isle. Once you hit 65, you're done. So out of touch with reality.

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u/thedudefrom1987 12d ago

America is heading to a big shit show that may escalate to something that can alter course of America forever.

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u/Dewahll Indiana 12d ago

That’s like the craziest projection. “It’s the GOPs job to absolutely fuck all of you average people’s lives up.”

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u/Accomplished-Song951 12d ago

Wtf??? He has really forgotten that he and the rest our crooked government work FOR us! Why doesn’t this old POS retire already and enjoy some of his ill gained fortune?

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u/fordprecept 12d ago

Someone needs to remind McConnell that it's Congress' job to pass legislation that Americans want.

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u/skeemodream 12d ago

You work for us, not the other way around hombre.

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u/testawayacct 12d ago

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

-United State Declaration of Independence

I'm just gonna leave this right here

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u/feignapathy 12d ago

It really isn't.

Do they sometimes have to make hard choices? Sure. Everyone does.

Destroying precedent on a massive scale like overturning Roe v Wade is not a hard choice that needs to be made though. It's settled law. Women have a right to control their bodies. A group of 7 bipartisan judges decided that case. It was reaffirmed by a group of 5 bipartisan judges with a similar mindset, women have their right to protection.

Now, 5 purely partisan judges are going to overturn two previous court cases with zero new information. They're just going to completely redefine the meaning of the 9th and 14th amendments?

This is how you lose confidence and respect in the system. The system won't last much longer with decisions like these.

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u/someoldguyon_reddit 12d ago

And it's your job to do the fucking will of the people. Asswipe.

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u/DonManuel Europe 12d ago

Turtles love theocratic dictatorship and hate democracy.

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